Bruno, I completely agree and will be delighted to be proven wrong, as thus, 
the new people (basically Obama's people) have a turn again at bat (US baseball 
reference). QANON, I ignored because they produced nothing useful, Basically, a 
disinformation campaign, and many of these in the past seemingly, were not all 
by the Soviets, the Chinese Communist Party, but were spun up by US advertising 
agencies. All in the name of psychological warfare.  

Here is my questions for the departed Orange President? Where is your evidence 
of massive, successful, voter fraud?
Since you had mentioned back in 2016 when you ran against Hillary, and quoted a 
study that indicated illegals in the US voting, you must have expected vote 
fraud, so why not take the steps to ensure that it would be difficult to 
conduct mass fraud??
Thx

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From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg



On 17 Jan 2021, at 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:
Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression. 
Some universities are like that, with some degree. When I was young, there were 
some excellent course in philosophy alongside with course which were pure and 
simple propaganda.
Then even the math departement was politicised, after may 1968. You needed to 
be communist to be well seen by the geometers, to be socialist to be well seen 
by Algebraists,  and to be capitalist to be analyst (calculus). Well, not as 
clearcut at this, but that was in the air, and some student got bad note for 
not applauding some local ideology, which was outrageous,Some have fight on 
this and win, others have fight and got many problems. It all depends on the 
character of many individuals, but of course, the pré-eminance of the human 
general law “the boss is right” does not help.
At least, in a working democracy, we can change the boss from time to time. 
That is a real progress, and perhaps the only one since Plato, in the human 
science.



It is no mistake that the most tyrannical of presidents Wilson and Obama 
arrived from the realm of professorship. I would add FDR and his internment 
camps, but he did free more peeps, than he imprisoned to say the least, so good 
on him.  So what to do? My part is easy! Wait for errors on the side of the 
ruling class, that affects the middle class, and when enough uncorrected 
problems pile up, people, naturally will react. Repression from social media 
and the banks will be one thing that initiates a back-reaction (right outta 
optical physics).If the Dems do well with economic recovery, then it will be 
sunny skies for them.  Once Kamala gets in gear, we will see what her 
leadership takes us? 


Let us give them a chance. We will see.
Bruno



On Saturday, January 16, 2021 Philip Benjamin 
<[email protected]> wrote:

[John K Clark]“No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly 
the same reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what 
they say is a very unproductive thing to do”[Philip Benjamin]   There are 
hundreds if not thousands of instances to the contrary. Some are listed below. 
That is why I call these Universities WAMP—Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism).1.  
https://www.thefire.org/10-worst-colleges-for-free-speech-2020/2. 
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/scientist-alleges-csun-fired-him-for-discovery-of-soft-tissue-on-dinosaur-fossil/
  LOS            ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Attorneys for a California State 
University, Northridge scientist who was terminated from his job after 
discovering soft tissue on a triceratops fossil have filed a lawsuit against 
the university.3. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/19kentucky.html    
Astronomer Sues the University of Kentucky, Claiming His Faith Cost Him a Job4. 
https://www.christianpost.com/news/professor-fired-after-speech-opposing-puberty-blocking-drugs-sues-university.html
    A Psychiatry Professor fired after speech opposing puberty-blocking drugs 
sues university5. 
https://mynewsla.com/crime/2021/01/11/chapman-professor-who-supports-trump-resists-calls-for-ouster/
    A Chapman University law professor who has come under fire for his election 
fraud claims and participation in a rally led by President Donald Trump just 
before the insurrection at the Capitol fought back Monday against critics who 
are calling for his ouster from the university6. 
http://www.theevolutioncrisis.org.uk/testimony5.php7. 
https://www.amazon.com/Expelled-Intelligence-Allowed-Ben-Stein/dp/B001BYLFFS    
   Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... What they 
forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben Stein (Ferris 
Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns an awe-inspiring 
truth … that educators and scientists are being ridiculed, denied tenure and 
even fired – for the crime of merely believing that there might be evidence of 
design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the result of accidental, 
random chance. To which Ben Says: Enough! And then gets busy. NOBODY messes 
with Ben.Philip Benjamin   
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg 
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote: 
> For me, all I need to see is which companies are doing the censoring? 
To censor someone you need the power to imprison or kill them if they say 
something you don't like, so no company is doing any censoring, some of them 
may want to but none of them are able to because only governments have enough 
power to do that. I'm not saying companies don't have any power at all because 
they do, and sometimes they use the power they do have unwisely, and that's a 
problem, but the solution is not to give even more power to the government 
because it already has quite enough power thank you. So what is the solution?  
I don't know, there may not be one, there is not always a solution to every 
problem and that's why we live in an imperfect world and probably always will, 
but we should try to make the imperfections as small as possible. And if 
history has taught us anything it's that  giving even more power to the 
government, which is already the most powerful institution in our society, will 
not make the world perfect. 
> Which universities are censoring for the "safety of the students" 
No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same reason, 
although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say is a very 
unproductive thing to do. And I think the idea that university students are 
such delicate snowflakes that they need protection from harsh language or 
exposure to views different from their own is ridiculous; they're not gonna be 
in college for their entire life and sooner or later they're going to have to 
toughen up if they want to live in the real world. So that's a problem, but the 
world is full of problems and some of them we just have to live with. I know 
one thing for sure: a government edict banning such a practice would cause more 
problems than it solved. 
> We had 7 months of sporadic riots and the liberals (which I sometimes side 
> with) and now they freak out when conservatives targets the capital. 
If you are not freaked out by a murderous mob of Stormtrumper zombies staging a 
coup d'état by attacking the Capital Building which contained the Vice 
President and every single member of the House and Senate in an attempt to 
overturn the Constitution of the USA and a free election to keep their "Dear 
Leader" in power indefinitely then there is something very seriously wrong with 
you!   
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