> On 21 Jan 2021, at 01:34, spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bruno, I completely agree and will be delighted to be proven wrong, as thus, > the new people (basically Obama's people) have a turn again at bat (US > baseball reference). QANON, I ignored because they produced nothing useful, > Basically, a disinformation campaign, and many of these in the past > seemingly, were not all by the Soviets, the Chinese Communist Party, but were > spun up by US advertising agencies. All in the name of psychological warfare.
I don’t think we can compare the lying propaganda (of the USSR for exemple) with the advertising in the US. Even the lies on drugs could be criticised, and the truth be known, like with the book of Jack Herer. He has not been sent in jail, nor his family get under threats. Threats in politics in something new in America, and seems to come up through Trump and those who enabled him. That is very grave, but, thank God, the US is still a democracy. But the Republican Party is very sick, that is what we can say. > > > Here is my questions for the departed Orange President? Where is your > evidence of massive, successful, voter fraud? > > Since you had mentioned back in 2016 when you ran against Hillary, I ran for nobody. After one week of Trump’s campaign I predicted (wrongly) that he would not get more than one vote. I am vey naïve, but once he promised he would show his taxes, I knew he was a crook. I am a republican, just horrified by Donald Trump and most of his acolytes. For me you can put Trump at the extreme left. You need this to lick Putin and Kim-Young-Un feet... > and quoted a study that indicated illegals in the US voting, you must have > expected vote fraud, so why not take the steps to ensure that it would be > difficult to conduct mass fraud?? The election in the US are very well organised. To have mass fraud is basically impossible. You would need thousands of democrats becoming (fake) member of the Republican Party. At this hours, we would have many whistleblowers using some doubt, at the least. But none of this occur, and no people witnessing frauds have maintained their claim under oath. I think, with Crebs, that: those were the most secure election ever made on the planet. Now, the facts that republicans continue to fear Trump worry me. They will lose the election and the honour, and that’s the best case scenario for the US. Bruno > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 10:41 am > Subject: Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg > > >> On 17 Jan 2021, at 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression. > Some universities are like that, with some degree. When I was young, there > were some excellent course in philosophy alongside with course which were > pure and simple propaganda. > > Then even the math departement was politicised, after may 1968. You needed to > be communist to be well seen by the geometers, to be socialist to be well > seen by Algebraists, and to be capitalist to be analyst (calculus). Well, > not as clearcut at this, but that was in the air, and some student got bad > note for not applauding some local ideology, which was outrageous, > Some have fight on this and win, others have fight and got many problems. It > all depends on the character of many individuals, but of course, the > pré-eminance of the human general law “the boss is right” does not help. > > At least, in a working democracy, we can change the boss from time to time. > That is a real progress, and perhaps the only one since Plato, in the human > science. > > > >> It is no mistake that the most tyrannical of presidents Wilson and Obama >> arrived from the realm of professorship. I would add FDR and his internment >> camps, but he did free more peeps, than he imprisoned to say the least, so >> good on him. >> So what to do? My part is easy! Wait for errors on the side of the ruling >> class, that affects the middle class, and when enough uncorrected problems >> pile up, people, naturally will react. Repression from social media and the >> banks will be one thing that initiates a back-reaction (right outta optical >> physics). >> If the Dems do well with economic recovery, then it will be sunny skies for >> them. Once Kamala gets in gear, we will see what her leadership takes us? > > Let us give them a chance. We will see. > > Bruno > > >> >> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 Philip Benjamin >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> [John K Clark] >> “No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same >> reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say >> is a very unproductive thing to do” >> [Philip Benjamin] >> There are hundreds if not thousands of instances to the contrary. Some >> are listed below. That is why I call these Universities WAMP—Western >> Acade-Media Pagan(ism). >> 1. https://www.thefire.org/10-worst-colleges-for-free-speech-2020/ >> <https://www.thefire.org/10-worst-colleges-for-free-speech-2020/> >> 2. >> https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/scientist-alleges-csun-fired-him-for-discovery-of-soft-tissue-on-dinosaur-fossil/ >> >> <https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/scientist-alleges-csun-fired-him-for-discovery-of-soft-tissue-on-dinosaur-fossil/> >> LOS >> ANGELES (CBSLA.com <http://cbsla.com/>) — Attorneys for a California >> State University, Northridge scientist who was terminated from his job after >> discovering soft tissue on a triceratops fossil have filed a lawsuit against >> the university. >> 3. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/19kentucky.html >> <https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/19kentucky.html> >> Astronomer Sues the University of Kentucky, Claiming His Faith Cost Him >> a Job >> 4. >> https://www.christianpost.com/news/professor-fired-after-speech-opposing-puberty-blocking-drugs-sues-university.html >> >> <https://www.christianpost.com/news/professor-fired-after-speech-opposing-puberty-blocking-drugs-sues-university.html> >> A Psychiatry Professor fired after speech opposing puberty-blocking >> drugs sues university >> 5. >> https://mynewsla.com/crime/2021/01/11/chapman-professor-who-supports-trump-resists-calls-for-ouster/ >> >> <https://mynewsla.com/crime/2021/01/11/chapman-professor-who-supports-trump-resists-calls-for-ouster/> >> A Chapman University law professor who has come under fire for his >> election fraud claims and participation in a rally led by President Donald >> Trump just before the insurrection at the Capitol fought back Monday against >> critics who are calling for his ouster from the university >> 6. http://www.theevolutioncrisis.org.uk/testimony5.php >> <http://www.theevolutioncrisis.org.uk/testimony5.php> >> 7. >> https://www.amazon.com/Expelled-Intelligence-Allowed-Ben-Stein/dp/B001BYLFFS >> <https://www.amazon.com/Expelled-Intelligence-Allowed-Ben-Stein/dp/B001BYLFFS> >> Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... What >> they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben Stein >> (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns an >> awe-inspiring truth … that educators and scientists are being ridiculed, >> denied tenure and even fired – for the crime of merely believing that there >> might be evidence of design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the >> result of accidental, random chance. To which Ben Says: Enough! And then >> gets busy. NOBODY messes with Ben. >> Philip Benjamin >> >> From: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of John Clark >> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:12 AM >> To: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> > For me, all I need to see is which companies are doing the censoring? >> >> To censor someone you need the power to imprison or kill them if they say >> something you don't like, so no company is doing any censoring, some of them >> may want to but none of them are able to because only governments have >> enough power to do that. I'm not saying companies don't have any power at >> all because they do, and sometimes they use the power they do have unwisely, >> and that's a problem, but the solution is not to give even more power to the >> government because it already has quite enough power thank you. So what is >> the solution? I don't know, there may not be one, there is not always a >> solution to every problem and that's why we live in an imperfect world and >> probably always will, but we should try to make the imperfections as small >> as possible. And if history has taught us anything it's that giving even >> more power to the government, which is already the most powerful institution >> in our society, will not make the world perfect. >> >> > Which universities are censoring for the "safety of the students" >> >> No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same >> reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say >> is a very unproductive thing to do. And I think the idea that university >> students are such delicate snowflakes that they need protection from harsh >> language or exposure to views different from their own is ridiculous; >> they're not gonna be in college for their entire life and sooner or later >> they're going to have to toughen up if they want to live in the real world. >> So that's a problem, but the world is full of problems and some of them we >> just have to live with. I know one thing for sure: a government edict >> banning such a practice would cause more problems than it solved. >> >> > We had 7 months of sporadic riots and the liberals (which I sometimes side >> > with) and now they freak out when conservatives targets the capital. >> >> If you are not freaked out by a murderous mob of Stormtrumper zombies >> staging a coup d'état by attacking the Capital Building which contained the >> Vice President and every single member of the House and Senate in an attempt >> to overturn the Constitution of the USA and a free election to keep their >> "Dear Leader" in power indefinitely then there is something very seriously >> wrong with you! >> >> John K Clark. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704E7BC4D709068A5C29666A8A60%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB4704E7BC4D709068A5C29666A8A60%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/142155772.2685116.1610868150478%40mail.yahoo.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/142155772.2685116.1610868150478%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8270F4F2-8340-410B-80AB-6D594B213A09%40ulb.ac.be > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8270F4F2-8340-410B-80AB-6D594B213A09%40ulb.ac.be?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1767533852.1330515.1611189261196%40mail.yahoo.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1767533852.1330515.1611189261196%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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