On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:33:23 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:18 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *>>> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no 
>>>> pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement. 
>>>> Otherwise local realism would be confirmed, instead of failing. AG *
>>>>
>>>
>>> >> And that is consistent with Many Worlds, for example before it is 
>>> measured a photon is not in one unique polarization, it is an every 
>>> polarization, and  any person who eventually makes a measurement of it 
>>> is in every possible state too; name any polarization and there is an 
>>> observer who saw it.  
>>>
>>
>> > *Another triumph for Trump physics.*
>>
>
> *WOW*, comparing someone known for disliking Trump to Trump, never heard 
> that one before! Well... actually I have .... maybe it's time to dream up a 
> new insult, that one is getting a bit stale. Of course it would be even 
> better if you could find a coherent logical counter argument, but I know 
> that's well beyond you.  
>

The virtue of Trump physics is that you can have your cake and eat it. In 
the video you posted, the presenter affirms superposition to mean a system 
can be, and indeed is, in more than one state simultaneously. Presumably, 
this also affirms the MWI. Then when I show the fallacy of his logic, and 
show that superposition implies the opposite -- that a system described by 
a superposed sum of states is in NONE of these states simultaneously -- you 
are quick to suggest that this situation is ALSO consistent with the MWI. 
So all I can say is that once again Trump physics prevails, as always. Life 
is good. AG 

>
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