On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:11:58 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:33:23 AM UTC-7 [email protected] > wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:18 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *>>> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no >>>>> pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement. >>>>> Otherwise local realism would be confirmed, instead of failing. AG * >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> And that is consistent with Many Worlds, for example before it is >>>> measured a photon is not in one unique polarization, it is an every >>>> polarization, and any person who eventually makes a measurement of it >>>> is in every possible state too; name any polarization and there is an >>>> observer who saw it. >>>> >>> >>> > *Another triumph for Trump physics.* >>> >> >> *WOW*, comparing someone known for disliking Trump to Trump, never heard >> that one before! Well... actually I have .... maybe it's time to dream up a >> new insult, that one is getting a bit stale. Of course it would be even >> better if you could find a coherent logical counter argument, but I know >> that's well beyond you. >> > > The virtue of Trump physics is that you can have your cake and eat it. In > the video you posted, the presenter affirms superposition to mean a system > can be, and indeed is, in more than one state simultaneously. Presumably, > this also affirms the MWI. Then when I show the fallacy of his logic, and > show that superposition implies the opposite -- that a system described by > a superposed sum of states is in NONE of these states simultaneously -- you > are quick to suggest that this situation is ALSO consistent with the MWI. > So all I can say is that once again Trump physics prevails, as always. Life > is good. AG > Maybe we can agree on one thing; that the video presenter is mistaken to assert that in a superposition, the system is in ALL component states of the sum simultaneously. It's analogous to the horse race thought experiment, where each horse has some probability of winning as the race progresses, but before the race ends no horse has 100% probability of winning. AG > >> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b0c89e42-4e1d-403a-ba97-438f02fb514bn%40googlegroups.com.
