On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 10:35:27 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-7 [email protected] > wrote: > >> >>>> >>> >you fail to understand HUP. AG >>> >> >> And you fail to understand IHA. >> > > Prior to the discovery of the HUP it was believed that unlimited precision > of initial conditions was possible, depending only on the advance of > technology. Now, with the HUP, we know this is not the case. Consequently, > determinism is no longer a viable interpretation of what's possible with > respect to accuracy of predictions. Even with h-bar in the statement of the > HUP, the error predictions get inevitably larger as time progresses. AG > It occurred to me that when solving Schroedinger's equation, one needs initial conditions. I haven't done this in a long while, but I think these initial conditions are also subject to the uncertainties implied by the HUP -- in which case, even if we're starting with a deterministic differential equation, the resulting solution, the wf, will also not conform to classical (pre-HUP) determinism. AG Turning to another point previously discussed, related to the video you posted (maybe on a different thread), namely the interpretation of superposition, specifically the apparent paradox of a system in simultaneous contradictory states before measurement, ISTM it's based on an obviously false interpretation of the double slit experiment. If you apply DeBroglie's insight that material particles have wave properties, why not just apply this to the double slit experiment, and conclude that particle waves go through BOTH slits and thus account for the observed interference patterns? If you assume what's NOT the case, that particles are NOT associated with waves, you run into big trouble. AG > >> >>>> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >>>> >>>> , >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1aa13f29-712f-41ff-a559-76702675a484n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1aa13f29-712f-41ff-a559-76702675a484n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/658bdafb-6383-4721-bbd7-f118b076a989n%40googlegroups.com.
