On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:53:14 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:17 PM Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>  > *If you probe spacetime with extremely high energy in a Heisenberg 
>> microscope setting you will get wild tumble of fluctuations and foam.*
>
>
> Maybe, maybe not, 3 of the 4 forces of nature certainly fluctuate wildly 
> when things get small but what about gravity, aka spacetime? Spacetime foam 
> has been theorized but never actually observed because the high energy 
> conditions needed have never been reached experimentally. Quantum Mechanics 
> says you will see a spacetime foam If you ever make a particle 
> accelerator powerful enough to reach the Planck level, but General 
> Relativity says you will not. Who's right?
> John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
>

Getting to Planck energy is of course a practical issue. This is not 
necessarily an issue with fundamental physics. However, in the weak field 
limit we have gravitational memory that is an abelian symmetry identified 
with I^+, in addition to the Lorentz symmetry at i^+/. Then even in a weak 
field limit, say the detection of gravitational waves from colliding black 
holes, we have find a signature of this foaminess of spacetime at much 
higher energy. 

LC

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