[Brent Meeker] "https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Story_of_Creation"; [Philip Benjamin] If nothing ever existed, nothing can exist today. "Ex nihilo, nihil fit" (Parmenides). Laws of any kind necessarily requires the existence of a conscious Law Giver. The logical question is: "what is more reasonable?" DEAD MATTER producing life or LIFE producing both dead matter and life-forms? Only a degree of rationality can be established here. Civilized, erudite Phoenician, profligate pagan Augustine of Greco-Roman roots was instantly TRANSFORMED into a non-pagan and pulled the West off Greco-Roman paganism and superstitions (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine). Thus he was the chief architect of Western Civilization built on the foundation of the Apostolic discourse at Athenian Mars Hill (Acts 17) where the Greco-Roman Unknown god was identified as the aseitous Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural) of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles. Progressive pagans with un-awakened consciousness cannot escape the questions of causality, aseity, morality, meaning and telos by simply evading them or assuming illogically the aseity of Dead Matter. Philip Benjamin
From: 'Brent Meeker' Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:38 PM [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Why Does Anything Exist? On 3/9/2021 12:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM Kim Jones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What was there before there was nothing? I don't believe reality was ever a state of absolute nothingness. Rather, there are things that exist necessarily: logical laws, truth, properties of numbers, etc. Some of these truths and number relations concern and define all computational histories, and the appearance of a physical reality is a result of these computations creating consciousness observers. See: https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Story_of_Creation<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Falwaysasking.com%2Fwhy-does-anything-exist%2F%23A_Story_of_Creation&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cec5e0f69aead43a3c24308d8e32a6d06%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637509118637908964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Lrh0EuaQoC0WABBOwHIKVI7SwW4TYdzZaqaqysIVp6c%3D&reserved=0> But you're casually confounding different sense of "exist". Logical laws, number, etc are derivative on language. They don't "exist" physically. The logicians meaning of exist is just to satisfy a predicate. Any sensible discussion of "exist"needs to start with recognizing it has several different meanings. Brent --. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB470415F8D7A381AB5AA7F34CA8929%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com.
