On 4/12/2021 11:17 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 1:12 PM John Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 12:35 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        /> An ant brain has hundreds of thousands of neurons and tens
        of millions of connections.So despite our intelligence, our
        minds are no where near capable of understanding and
        comprehending all the structural interrelationships present in
        an ant brain./


    True, but such detail is usually not necessary, and even today we
    can make a pretty good prediction of the general sort of things an
    ant will do in a given circumstance, such as when it encounters a
    grain of sugar.

        /> A super intelligence, on the other hand, could have the
        requisite memory and processing to hold in it's mind a
        comprehension of another, much simpler mind,/


    Yes, if by "comprehension" you mean the ability to predict an
    output (also known as behavior) of a mind for any given inputI
    agree, assuming randomness does not play a part.  But predicting
    how you will objectively behave it's not the same as knowing what
    it would subjectively be like to be you. I think being you is
    unique and analogies don't work in this case so being you is not
    subjectively "like" anything except being you.



We have a vision sense that can know what it is like to see many different scenes.

Why then, could a Jupiter brain, not have an others-mind-sense that can know what it is like to be many different minds?

I think that's just a more speculative version of the "Mary the color-blind neuroscientist" puzzle.  In Mary's case we know she has a brain that could experience color, she just doesn't have the sensors and therefore not the experience.  Can she never the less understand the experience and know what it is like to see color?  I think it is possibly so.

Brent

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