It's impossible to refute solipsism, but that's true regardless of your metaphysics. It's true that the only thing we know *for sure* is our own consciousness, but there's nothing about what I said that makes it impossible for there to be a reality outside of ourselves populated by other people. It just requires belief.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:39 AM Henrik Ohrstrom <[email protected]> wrote: > That would be, it is quite solipsistic? > /henrik > > > Den mån 26 apr. 2021 kl 14:31 skrev Terren Suydam <[email protected] > >: > >> Assuming the program has a state and that state changes in response to >> its inputs, then it seems reasonable to say the program is conscious in >> some elemental way. What is it conscious "of", though? I'd say it's not >> conscious of anything outside of itself, in the same way we are not >> conscious of anything outside of ourselves. We are only conscious of the >> model of the world we build. You might then say it's conscious of its >> internal representation, or its state. >> >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 4:29 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It is quite easy, I think, to define a program that "remembers" (stores >>> and later retrieves ( information. >>> >>> It is slightly harder, but not altogether difficult, to write a program >>> that "learns" (alters its behavior based on prior inputs). >>> >>> What though, is required to write a program that "knows" (has awareness >>> or access to information or knowledge)? >>> >>> Does, for instance, the following program "know" anything about the data >>> it is processing? >>> >>> if (pixel.red > 128) then { >>> // knows pixel.red is greater than 128 >>> } else { >>> // knows pixel.red <= 128 >>> } >>> >>> If not, what else is required for knowledge? >>> >>> Does the program behavior have to change based on the state of some >>> information? For example: >>> >>> if (pixel.red > 128) then { >>> // knows pixel.red is greater than 128 >>> doX(); >>> } else { >>> // knows pixel.red <= 128 >>> doY(): >>> } >>> >>> Or does the program have to possess some memory and enter a different >>> state based on the state of the information it processed? >>> >>> if (pixel.red > 128) then { >>> // knows pixel.red is greater than 128 >>> enterStateX(): >>> } else { >>> // knows pixel.red <= 128 >>> enterStateY(); >>> } >>> >>> Or is something else altogether needed to say the program knows? >>> >>> If a program can be said to "know" something then can we also say it is >>> conscious of that thing? >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUgmPiCz5v4p91LAs0jN_2dCBocvnh4OO8sE7c-0JG%3DuwQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUgmPiCz5v4p91LAs0jN_2dCBocvnh4OO8sE7c-0JG%3DuwQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA_kzDBO7wXrgXJ36bOJmFo6cNv8pxYzt6GujRcc92Vy%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA_kzDBO7wXrgXJ36bOJmFo6cNv8pxYzt6GujRcc92Vy%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAF0GBnjtnJ1S%2BS6uhENxBey%2BT7X3%3D4Z9V1FVSiUe4ODYpiCn9Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAF0GBnjtnJ1S%2BS6uhENxBey%2BT7X3%3D4Z9V1FVSiUe4ODYpiCn9Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA9buDgz0RrSd43NFXq_V-ta1VJhB0orw8mJcABdeyTzEg%40mail.gmail.com.
