So do you have nothing to say about coma patients who've later woken up and
said they were conscious?  Or people under general anaesthetic who later
report being gruesomely aware of the surgery they were getting?  Should we
ignore those reports?  Or admit that consciousness is worth considering
independently from its effects on outward behavior?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:16 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:45 AM Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > It's impossible to refute solipsism
>>
>
> True, but it's equally impossible to refute the idea that everything
> including rocks is conscious. And if both a theory and its exact opposite
> can neither be proven nor disproven then neither speculation is of any
> value in trying to figure out how the world works.
>
> * > It's true that the only thing we know for sure is our own
>> consciousness,*
>>
> And I know that even I am not conscious all the time, and there is no
> reason for me to believe other people can do better.
>
>
>> * > but there's nothing about what I said that makes it impossible for
>> there to be a reality outside of ourselves populated by other people. It
>> just requires belief.*
>>
>
> And few if any believe other people are conscious all the time, only
> during those times that corresponds to the times they behave intelligently
> .
>
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