So do you have nothing to say about coma patients who've later woken up and said they were conscious? Or people under general anaesthetic who later report being gruesomely aware of the surgery they were getting? Should we ignore those reports? Or admit that consciousness is worth considering independently from its effects on outward behavior?
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:16 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:45 AM Terren Suydam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > It's impossible to refute solipsism >> > > True, but it's equally impossible to refute the idea that everything > including rocks is conscious. And if both a theory and its exact opposite > can neither be proven nor disproven then neither speculation is of any > value in trying to figure out how the world works. > > * > It's true that the only thing we know for sure is our own >> consciousness,* >> > And I know that even I am not conscious all the time, and there is no > reason for me to believe other people can do better. > > >> * > but there's nothing about what I said that makes it impossible for >> there to be a reality outside of ourselves populated by other people. It >> just requires belief.* >> > > And few if any believe other people are conscious all the time, only > during those times that corresponds to the times they behave intelligently > . > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3NKKuSpfc0%3DemkA75U4rvEmS%2B_bBWtM%3D_Xhc5XnWOr0g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3NKKuSpfc0%3DemkA75U4rvEmS%2B_bBWtM%3D_Xhc5XnWOr0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA9BY%2BBVTmBqaMNtDwqCUC%3DcZ7H%2BCx_ihmr_Dy5prjn7WQ%40mail.gmail.com.

