As Umberto Eco puts it in his "UR-Fascism, 14 Way to Identify a Black 
Shirt," fascism is a bundle of contradictions. Adolf Hitler, particularly 
in the last two years, was not able to keep tabs on his own brain. He would 
praise Christianity one day and curse it the next. Don-the-Con t'Rump is 
similar, and he logged nearly 30,000 lies told in office. His whirlwind of 
a chaotic mind would shift from one thing and its opposite within a 
timeframe of hours. What ever was in his mind at the moment was truth. 
Hitler was similar. 

LC

On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 2:39:01 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

>
> Ok, understood. Lets try first with this WaPo article on old adolf and 
> see? 
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/04/20/hitler-hated-judaism-he-loathed-christianity-too/
>
> After pouring over lots of pro and cons about dead adolf's world view, I 
> see nothing back a back and forth tween say Dawkins followers and 
> Christians, each in their own way saying, "You own him, he's yours." What 
> did jerky boy want when he conquered the world? Basically, a vision of 
> blonds who believed in race. That is it. A few nazis in the reich became 
> odinists (Valhalla and paganism and such), probably a few satanists but no 
> more than the UK had. Lots of remainers in the old Lutheran and Roman 
> Catholic churches, because tradition and nothing better to do. My view is 
> that saying "well, atheists are never to blame because our hearts are pure 
> and worshipping the rules of the state are necessary!" Worshipping the 
> state and not a higher authority obviously leads to The Gulags, The Killing 
> Fields, The Great Leap Forward. High body count there, the highest in 
> history, if you discount the bubonic plagues of Justinian in the 6th 
> century and 14th. 
>
> So what to do? Well, for me, I tend to go with what clicks for me, which 
> is usually a triangulation tween my amygdala and my cerebrum.  I tend to 
> search and occasionally find the works of scientists and scientific 
> philosophers that give models of how things could be better and more 
> interesting than atheism or religious fanaticism, which tend to piss me off 
> (my amygdala reacts). So, for me, and obviously not for you I like the idea 
> of taking this stuff seriously. So I still go back to the Universe Learning 
> as sort of a good thing, maybe a great thing?
>
> https://www.space.com/is-the-universe-conscious
>
> More formally-
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.07655.pdf
>
> And, if you don't agree I will declare jihad against you, and declaim you 
> on twitter, and unfriend you on facebook.. :- / That'll show ya. 
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, Jun 17, 2021 1:23 am
> Subject: Re: Was, Re: The theology of number, (Now) The Universe Learns 
> (not released on April 1st)
>
>
>
> On 6/16/2021 9:44 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> >
> > Sure Brent, old history for me.Both adolf and stalin were actual choir 
> > boys. But the claim was that the socialists get a pass,
> >
>
>
> No. Your claim was that Hitler was a "big atheist" and as usual you have 
> nothing to back it up. 
>
>
> Brent
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