I figure it because statistics were accurate during FDR's final term, the CCC 
only helped unemployed somewhat, and that according to every historian what 
ended the Great Depression was the Second World War, something I think you had 
familiarity with? 11 million males in uniform, so no unemployment, millions of 
men and women working in factories for the war effort,  yeah, that could be the 
reason for FDR's big Bar. 1933, unemployment rate 30% just post Hoover, FDR's 
unemployment thru April 1945 before the War in Europe ended on May 7, 1945; and 
in the Pacific August, officially September 2nd 1945. So that's what earned 
FDR's big bar. There was a 2nd stock market crash in 1937 during FDR's second 
term, which kicked the unemployment back up, and caused some Americans to 
consider what employment plans Stalin and Adolf had to offer? 

For FDR on policies there have been articles by academic economists and 
historians, concerning the effectiveness of the New 
deal.https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/ask_a_scholar_did_the_new_deal_end_the_great_depression
Who did the best with unemployment in cold hard reality? I suspect over the 
last several decades it went like this, Bubba Clinton, Bush43 from the 9-11 
recession, Regan, then Trump, and on the other side because of their policies, 
on the bad side, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, George Bush Sr. & then Barrack, 
using for both job makers and job losers, two data points: unemployment rate & 
population of those of working age? 

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 > Roosevelt died shortly before its end in  April 1945, and 13 million men and 
 > women were in the military from 1941-1946. This kind of skews your big blue 
 > stripe.

I don't know how you figured that, they were gainfully employed and their 
employer was the US government, and a good thing too  or we'd all be speaking 
German or Japanese right now. It certainly demonstrates the government does 
have the ability to stimulate job growth if it chooses to do so.   

> I lived thru a time when American job growth expanded during Orange Man and 
> people it IT had a hard time finding work during the Obama years.

As I said before, Obama inherited the worst economic catastrophe in the past 80 
years from his Republican predecessor who caused it all.  And the Republicans 
did everything they could to sabotage Obama's job growth initiative, in 
hindsight there is little doubt that if they hadn't the economic recovery from 
the Bush Great Recession would've been much faster.  
>  It was physical, it was tactile. Remember the saying statistics don't like, 
> but liars can figure, applies here. I lived thru it in the last several 
> years, saw it, heard it, understood it, and under Donny we experienced job 
> growth

Sorry Spuddy, but in my book cold hard statistics outrank personal anecdotes, 
that's why if scientists say a vaccine is safe but a friend of my neighbor's 
cousin says a vaccine shot made him sick I decide to take the vaccine anyway. 

> One reason was the Big Companies importation of Indian IT workers. 

Well,..., what can I say other than if Indian IT workers are smarter than you 
then Indian IT workers are smarter than you?   
> Today, many, naturally, stay on unemployment due to covid.

And you can give equal credit to the virus itself and to Trump's bungled 
response to it for that.

> Which causes jobs again hard to find employees for a totally different 
> reason. 

I see. So whenever something bad happens during a Republican administration 
it's not the president's fault, but if the same thing happens during a 
Democratic administration it is, and whenever something good happens during a 
Democratic administration it was just luck, but if it happens during a 
Republican administration it is caused by pure skill; and that's why ot of the 
last 14 presidents the top 4 in terms of GDP growth were Democrats and Donald J 
Trump was number 14 out of 14. No I take that back, I don't see. 

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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