On 6/28/2021 4:31 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
The GDP was much smaller even in proportion to the popular size. Plus, there is no taking account of the decline in GDP from 1929-1933. I don't care aboutrepublican or democrat, I just care about results.

Then why do you vote for Republicans or the Orangeatan they support for President?

Going from begging to full employment was not a masterstroke of the New Deal, John, but America's entry and triumph in WW2.

Just one of the Democratic Presidents who preside over growth.

I am saying what your statistic reflects is millions or men in the military, plus million working in wartime factories. If the New Deal was such a success, which it was not,

It would have been except the Republicans blocked it on theory that the government shouldn't go so deep into debt....until there was a war.

nobody would be arguing the point. It would be like going against an improved chipset or trace arrays on your personal devices, because, why interfere with better?

Now, this makes me wax philosophical because if FDR looked back and had his life to live over again, would he have started a war against Adolf, defeat the nazis, and laid barriers against Stalin in Eastern Europe, and blunted, or tried to bring in from the cold that Japanese? Killing Hitler in 1934 would have changed the world. This, then, is a many worlds argument worth arguing (maybe).

On our world, as it is now, please keep your eye on the crazy employment numbers, but also inflation. Keep an eye on housing as well, and ask yourself could we again arrive at another Dodd-Frank circa 2008 housing collapse (Now that happened under  Bush 43's watch.

Funny how you can ramble on but never get around to answering JKC's direct questions.

Brent



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On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 4:36 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    /> Who did the best with unemployment in cold hard reality? I
    suspect over the last several decades it went like this /[...]


You don't need to "suspect", you don't need to hear anecdotes from your dentist's nephew's friend, you can look up the cold hard employment figures in a book and they do not cast Republican presidents in a flattering light.

    the CCC only helped unemployed somewhat[...] /Roosevelt died
    shortly before its end in  April 1945, and 13 million men and
    women were in the military from 1941-1946.This kind of skews your
    big blue stripe./


That big blue stripe, and stripes (plural), in the figure below are not about unemployment, they are about the annual Gross Domestic Product growth rate, they are about the size of the economy, and the red stripes also do not cast Republican presidentsin a flattering light, especially Donald J Trump.
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John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

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