Sorry John, I read past what you intended. Do you mean what I would try in 2021, or what I would have tried on Sept 12, 2001? Ok, here goes in 2001, I would have simply been out for revenge in the sense of an extermination campaign. I would have used thermobarics to the max for a full year to burn them and their supply chain from Pakistan, knowing that when the pathway for re-supply would have been open once more. For this I would have had bases facing Pakistan and the ISI for immediate annihilation. My own though back then and today is we cannot impose our culture successfully on most Muslims. They want Janah, Paradise, they know that life is short and that gain Janah and avoid Gahanim (Gehanna) they must die in battle. 70 virgins, and you know the score. Dealing with the Kuffar moneywise for a few decades, or the Have the rewards of a million years with Allah? Ask Samiya on this list if you need to, an judge by his answer. Modern day, I would say that Islam is a faith of power, because if there is no power, how can you know if what you chose merits the favor of Allah or his Wrath? To be "respected" we have to be tougher than nails, and to gain the respect of foes we have to tough and flexible. The Umah (Islamic Community) wants into Janah, and doesn't want the grave or Gahanoim, (sp),. They don't wish to please the Kuffar (non-Muslims, Infidels) but do wish to please Allah. One option that could be taken is that the Muslim clergy fear the Christian modern message of Jesus The Forgiver. The advantage is to attain paradise one doesn't have to be a Shaheed, a Martyr to attain Janah. If Jesus does forgives without fighting and killing, merely by belief, THIS the clergy know is Very Tempting to a large percentage of the Umah!!! Thus, we could see a peeling away of the Jihadist thinking, which the clergy believe is Against Quran, Soonah, and The Bookhari. That kind of innovation might bring Peace. We do know that Christianity had Jesus as the Condemner to Hell for the First 17 centuries. Because the Churches had the psychological, Keys to the Kingdom they got to be the true Gate Keepers, eh?. Thus we might advance the cause of peace this way-consider it. For me, being a child of the 20th century I say Jesus SavesMoses Invests Elvis Surfs I have fore-shortened my blather because 1. This is an email response not a dissertation2. I am just a serf after all not a policy maker3. All this, as 20 years ago was is out of my hands. Nobody invited me to the planning table. I know my place woof-woof.
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2021 5:47 am Subject: Re: Afghanistan papers On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:11 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > I would have considered using thermobaric weapons to blast them out of the > mountains, I asked for your solution to win the war in Afghanistan and turn the country into a stable peaceful democracy, and this is what I get. It's not really surprising, I have long noted that whenever a know-nothing average man starts pontificating on current events he invariably has a solution for all the world's problems, and every one of those solutions is simple, brutal, and above all DUMB. And "all we need is a bigger bomb" is a perfect example of that. By the way, the US military started using laser guided thermobaric bombs against Taliban cave complexes 19 years ago on March 3, 2002, but it turned out that wasn't the magical spell you were looking for, we still lost the war. The US also used the MOAB in Afghanistan, the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used in warfare, but that wasn't the right magical spell either, we still lost the war. You claimed that both you and Donald Trump know of a way to defeat the Taliban that neither I or Joe Biden knows about, but all I've actually heard from you is "we've got to get a bigger bomb". Is that it, is that all you got? > and I would have deliberately pushed back on Pakistan's ISI. Do you honestly think the US hasn't been "deliberately pushing back on Pakistan's ISI" for decades? I want to know what you would do that would be different from what has been done for the last 20 years, and if Donald "would not have permitted" the current situation to have occurred and he also knew about this secret wonderful method of yours, which you implied he did, why the hell didn't he use that's wonderful magical thing during the 4 years he was president? > I am purportedly, on the side of the US middle class versus the narcissitic > rich. And that's why, using typical Spudboy logic, you support Donald Trump and his historic and ENORMOUS tax break for the top 1% of the top 1%. > Yeah, I am well aware of what Smoot-Hawley did to the world in 1930. And that's why, using typical Spudboy logic, you support Donald Trump, a self-described "Tariffs Man". John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis yytr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1592918468.229142.1629398549221%40mail.yahoo.com.
