Am Mi, 1. Sep 2021, um 21:56, schrieb [email protected]: > The only question that matters Telmo, is if the allegations of Islamists > attacking your women is true? Thus, it then becomes a criminal matter and > even though I view your politicians and police covering for the attackers, it > ain't good, results wise. It's either true or false in each case. It's > observable behavior and not down to emotions. If Brown men are attacking then > yeah, its a real problem. The axiom doesn't work that being a victim doesn't > make you less racist, nor more guilty of racism.
Sweden has a broader definition of rape than most European countries. This makes it looks that it is rape central, when in reality nothing unusual is happening there. This discrepancy has been exploited by media catering to certain political inclinations to create moral panic. I live in Berlin, right at the eye of the hurricane of Merkel's "Wir schaffen das" refugee-friendly policy. I have met Syrian refugees, and I have friends who teach classes to refugees. For what it is worth, my female friends consistently tell me that they feel safer moving around in Berlin than in most other cities. I don't live in Sweden, so I can't give you the "boots on the ground" impression. I have Swedish colleagues and friends, and they definitely do not seem worried about that. I have never witnessed any such preoccupations outside of English-speaking populist press. A few years ago, when I was still on facebook, there was this video from the Alex Jones networks making the rounds. It purported to depict the "fall of Europe", in the form of Islamic terrorists freely exploding bombs in Berlin, while the authorities looked the other way. In reality, Berlin has a huge native Turkish population, and this video showed the common new year celebrations, which is Germany involve a lot of DIY fireworks. Of course, we are not in the age of context of nuance. The only thing that matter is creating strong emotions to cater to your tribe. Say something your tribe doesn't like, and you will be on your own. This is not exclusive to the right, by the way. Large parts of the current left are behaving in exactly the same way. > My suspicion here is that the Scandinavians are trying to prove to the world > and themselves, that, We Aren't Nazis! As nice as that is to know, if you > want to prove to yourselves that the 3rd Reich is truly dead you know there > are other cultures you can have immigrants from, and ones that are far, less, > belligerent than the folks from Somalia & Syria. People from Latin America, > nice and earth-toned would be happy to do work and pay into your national > healthcare system to help replenish the funds. India, you know about, > Vietnam, etc. This is an extraordinarily anglo-centric view of things. This might come as a surprise to you, but outside of the USA/UK most people see WWII as History. Nobody in Germany or Sweden is really preoccupied with proving that they are not nazis. WWII was indeed a very fine hour for the anglosphere, but we are now in 2021, almost one century after the national-socialist movement began to take hold. I witnessed this during Brexit. The UK populists can't have enough of WWII references. They wished to propagate the idea that Germany is forever-nazi, and that they are the only ones preventing Europe from devolving into the 4th reich. This is just pure narcissism, in my view. Europe is old and decrepit in many ways, but we do have one nice thing going for us: we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that we are not special, and that we can become monsters. The quicker the USA also learns that same lesson, the better for all of us. I am a huge admirer of the USA, by the way. To be clear: I have nothing against you. We have different opinions on politics, that is all. I notice that everyone here gangs up on you, and that almost makes me want to take your side :) Take care spud! Telmo > On your collective future, my plea is the issue isn't just with one guy, and > thus, the party he represents has climbed high on the unreliability scale. > Now, we are the nation state that invented Isolationism (sans, globalist > corporations) and it seems that it is once again invented. Armor up, I'd say. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 3:53 am > Subject: Re: The American Taliban > > > Am Mi, 1. Sep 2021, um 02:53, schrieb [email protected]: >> https://www.fantasticfiction.com/v/vernor-vinge/true-names-and-other-dangers.htm >> >> >> To be honest using one's true name was something I was paranoid about for a >> long time, and yeah, that shows in my character and writing. I believe it is >> naïve unless one is on a professional venue to not use a nom' de guerre. As >> this society polarizes and splits in two, (US) it becomes increasingly >> unlikely that we'll respect each others boundaries. >> >> For Europeans involved as Nato countries, I wish the best of fortune and >> would urge planning for a an EU defense that is independent on a now >> unreliable USA. > > Both Merkel and Macron could see the writing on the wall during the Trump > presidency. This is more likely to happen in the post-Brexit EU. The UK was > the main actor blocking it. > > But before that, we will have to deal with yet another wave of refugees > created by US military interventions. And while we deal with it, I am sure > that US populist pundits will once again at the same time criticize us for > doing it, crying about "the fall of Europe" and spreading "news" about the > streets of Copenhagen being awash in brown men raping blond women, etc ad > nauseam. European populist pundits usually join the party, but this time they > might not, given how much of a shit-show Brexit (a direct consequence of such > "news") has been. > > Telmo > > >> Yes, another area to bicker about, but policy changes, when not well planned >> or executed do cause disorder. Definitively not the Scandinavian model, >> that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> To: Everything List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2021 10:38 am >> Subject: Re: The American Taliban >> >> >> Am Di, 31. Aug 2021, um 13:10, schrieb John Clark: >>> [...] >>> >>> Hmm.... that would explain why you refuse to sign your real name to your >>> screeds, in a way I can sympathize, if I held your opinions I'd be ashamed >>> of them too. >> >> John, I mostly agree with you on this ongoing (and rather boring for a >> non-American) debate over US politics. >> >> That being said, I think that the old Internet tradition of using pseudonyms >> is a good thing. There are many reasons for not using your real name beyond >> shame over your opinions. Maybe you are a non-believer in a strongly >> religious environment, and disclosing this could put your life in jeopardy. >> Maybe you need some job to surive, and you know you could get into trouble >> if your real opinions were known to your employer, and so on and so forth. >> Maybe spud has his reasons, that's none of our business. >> >> There is a relentless push toward "real identities" that, I think, started >> with facebook. Their incentive here is probably mostly about increasing the >> quality of the data that they mine for their advertisement algorithms, but >> it has the side effect of magnifying the chilling effect on public >> discourse. It is better to remain silent than to say something that might >> get you into trouble. It certainly helps the status quo (whatever the status >> quo is in your country). Hummm... >> >> I guess I was influenced by the times when the Internet was young and full >> of promise as a technology that could amplify human agency and freedom >> instead of curtailing them. I now know that that was pretty idealistic and >> naive, but I will still resist anonymity-shaming until my last breath. >> People who want us to force us to use our real identity no matter what are >> usually the same people who wish to control us, and probably not with our >> best interests in mind. >> >> I do sign with my real name here. Probably everywhere, maybe not. I won't >> tell and nobody should ask. >> >> Telmo >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e4c6d4c1-4097-4011-8844-4d3d29df2906%40www.fastmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e4c6d4c1-4097-4011-8844-4d3d29df2906%40www.fastmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> >> . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/38337edd-ab17-4fbe-8524-ebe7a9a76ebd%40www.fastmail.com.
