Samiya, the war between the Kuffar may indeed be a curse sent, by your fellow 
in the sky, but without knowing seems unlikely. If you are Shia or Alawi, you 
have no better friend than Putin, who adores the Ayatollahs as customers for 
his weapons, and the same with the Asads in Syria. 
Homosexuality, as we have no research evidence that what dear Phil claims 
(chemicals, drugs, plastics, fertilizers???), is an interesting thought, but 
again, how one uses Mr. Zibbi, seems sketchy at this point. Fascinating, if 
true, and in the Kuffar world, many a lawyer will get rich rich rich off such 
lawsuits (class action?). For myself I am not such a person who seeks male 
companionship being nicely married to a female. I am just not condemnatory of 
how one turns out sexually. I am less worried about what the Guy upstairs does 
than I am about how we decide to deal with each other? Kuffar & Ummah apart and 
combined? My feeling is (however wrong) it's on us. 
On Abortion and I have been thinking about this for a few years is, a problem 
needing a medical solution. What political advisor to US politicians, Dick 
Morris has offered up, is the concept of Early Birth, where the fetus is 
removed and immediately hooked into an incubator/artificial womb. What I call a 
"Womb with a View," and then the child is brought forth in 9 months. This 
solves two problems at once. A Kuffar female wants to not give birth after 
being impregnated, or even a Muslima cannot carry the child to birth, and boom, 
we have a satisfying answer. Satisfying because I go for technology first 
rather than religion and morals so as not to offend!
https://www.dickmorris.com/middle-road-on-abortion-lunch-alert/

The man makes sense since he offers a medical solution rather than fighting 
which is the traditional way. 
https://www.dickmorris.com/middle-road-on-abortion-lunch-alert/


Am I expecting you or Phil to accept this? No, you don't wish to draw the wrath 
of the Big Guy, and Phil don't want to offend Mr. Jesus of Nazareth. I accept 
this. Among my own the Orthodox don't dare eat Baco's even because they are so 
pious that they don't even want the appearance of eating The KHanzeer!  How 
precious! This doesn't make them holy in my view, in theirs? Group loyalty, 
just like the Ummah. One doesn't want to be considered a Sakari Musalman, 
especially for your team, Samiya. But in any case Baco's or versions thereof 
carry no pig even for flavoring. I checked.
https://www.missmamosworld.com/how-are-imitation-bacon-bits-made.html

To illustrate for you two gents that science marches on whether we like it or 
not, and changes our world please note this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/300510448/synthetic-wombs-could-help-premature-babies
What about growing hanzeer as just cell culture, that never, ever, grows into 
something with organs and bones??? Used for Food!!!
https://www.emdgroup.com/en/research/science-space/envisioning-tomorrow/scarcity-of-resources/cleanmeat.html

Not within 1000 kilometers of an oink! cluck! or moo! I am good with this as a 
promising food source. Your two? Never.
Since its not an animal, reason tells us that it's a copy of the meat, just a 
copy! However, so as not to offend Jannah, why tempt judgement??
Also, there is this thought. If I am a mad scientist or a liberal, then why not 
as a true atheist, grow human tissue for meat consumption???
Who is to stop me? So there really are limits to what feel decide is right? 
Having said that, one looks at the liberal progressives and they often just 
leave rationality behind, because of their faith-ideology (Sorry JC, but it is 
true). 
The funny thing would be if they could grow for consumption, the male 
appendage???? 
One could purchase Halal Sausages, grown from you know what? ;-D
Or non-Halal:
English Bangers, Black Angus, or the biggest of all Kosher Franks! 
Disgusting, yes, possible? Maybe!
I was going to be even more brusque, but erased that part. Felt creepy! 
Look at it this way, this discusses the human condition in the face of 
annihilation, the other worthies discuss whether after entering a teleporter 
and appearing on the other side is the same person. Now this could have weight 
if one discusses resurrections, but count on these guys to be disinterested in 
that aspect. Human nature and all. For these lads, God just gets in the way.

Via Dios Gentlemen.







-----Original Message-----
From: Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Cc: general_the...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 14, 2022 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened 
Consciousness Problem


Purchase with Your Leaf 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2020/12/purchase-with-your-leaf.html 


On 13-May-2022, at 7:59 PM, Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com> wrote:




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div.yiv6614784213WordSection1 {}-->[Philip Benjamin]   Samiya Illias may be 
right, but who cares for the Bible? Islam consider it as a lost Book, with the 
current copies as all fake. See below what modern Judaism views about the 
Torah. Whe America was  founded there were > 98.8% Protestants, <1% Roman 
Catholics and < 0.2% Jews and they all recognized the current copies of OT 
and/or NT as true to the Originals.  {Koran called them as People of the Book). 
The Bible was the only authority for 98.8 % of the population, whether they 
practiced it or not! That is ludicrous and abominable today. The “Two Great 
Awakenings” (1 st led by the prodigious philosopher Jonathan Edwards, the 
founder of Princeton University and the 2 nd led by the President of Yale 
University), were both the outcome in individual life by ‘the Word through the 
operation of the Spirit to the Knowledge of Redemptive History fulfilled in the 
vicarious death, burial and resurrection of the Messiah according to the 
eternal counsel of the Triune Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim 
(uni-plural). There is the difference of light and darkness between 
WAMP-the-Ingrate of today and the “Awakened America” for which the 
ex-seminarian turned Marxist pagan Hitler unconsciously coined the term 
“American Exceptionalism”. There are only two ways out of the present doldrums: 
 1. A Third Great Awakening, perhaps led by a President of a university of 
Gomorrah  2. Civil War as desired or wishfully/willfully thought out probably 
by a WAMP product below. Philip Benjamin Nonconformist to 
Marxist-socialist-fascist pagan globalism. 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-labor-secretary-breaks-down-how-second-american-civil-war-is-already-underway/
  
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/11/second-american-civil-war-robert-reich
 Wed 11 May 2022 05.18 EDT  “Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, who served in 
President Bill Clinton’s administration, on Wednesday explained why he believes 
the second American Civil War is already in progress.” [Philip Benjamin]     
Samiya Illias quote  “The Torah, The Bible, and The Quran warn against 
homosexual relationships,” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2696758/  Y.H Kahn 
PMID: 2696758 DOI: 10.1300/J082v18n03_03  Progressive Jews have begun in recent 
years to question the underlying premises of traditional Jewish teaching on 
sexuality. Employing the categories of covenant theology and applying the 
interpretative methodology of liberal Judaism, the author argues for the 
valuation of the person as homosexual as a legitimate expression of human and 
Jewish covenantal obligation. 
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-homosexuality-part-of-jewish-tradition-1.5383449?
 fri Ilany Aug. 5, 2015 Updated: Apr. 24, 2018   Homosexuality Is Part of 
Jewish Tradition    
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jta/israel-s-health-minister-overturning-roe-v-wade-would-be-a-fatal-blow-to-human/
 Israel’s health minister: Overturning Roe v. Wade would be ‘a fatal blow to 
human rights’ Philissa Cramer Posted May 4, 2022 
https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-bans-may-violate-jewish-womens-first-amendment-rights-2022-5?
  Jewish organizations say restricting abortion access would violate their 
religious freedoms…..  Jewish communities react to the possible overturning of 
Roe v. Wade, which could violate their First Amendment rights Katie Balevic and 
Katherine Tangalakis-Lippert    From: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
<everything-list@googlegroups.com>On Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 5:02 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Cc: general_the...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened 
Consciousness Problem    
As in the Days of Lot 
 https://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2022/04/as-in-days-of-lot.html?m=1     

 
On 19-Apr-2022, at 1:32 AM, Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 

[Philip Benjamin]   References given at the bottom.
  NYTimes.com: "Don't Just Freeze Russia's Money. Seize It. " The WAMP defined 
below knows that the unspoken reason for the Russo-Ukraine war is moral not 
political- an unenergized bio dark-matter twin body problem.
" Western nations commit genocide upon other countries that refuse to hold gay 
pride parades." Says the Orthodox Patriarch of Russia. "Ukraine's LGBTQ is 
forced to confront this as a threat to its own community" reports NY Times. 
Russia was frightened by the decrepit Western cultural onslaught on their 
traditional institutions especially the school systems. So they amend their 
Constitution to ban LGBTQ agenda. "Super Power" America & the West has long 
forgotten their 
Patriarchal-Prophetic-Aostolic-Augustinian-Athanesian-Reformation- 
Puritan-"Great Awakening" roots which have now become largely  a terra 
incognita (verisimilar to Judges 2:10). Instead they conformed to 
Marxist-Socialist-pagan globalism which Russia has rejected. The cowardice of 
unawakened consciousness created a leadership vacuum which Russia now 
presumably decided to fill.
Philip Benjamin 
(Nonconformist to Marxist pagan globalism)

    NY Times. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/17/world/russia-ukraine-queer-activists.html  
"But the war that started when Russia invaded on Feb. 24 has forced Ukraine's 
L.G.B.T.Q. movement to confront a threat not only to national sovereignty, but 
also to its own community. A pro-Russian puppet government, they say, would be 
less supportive of the L.G.B.T.Q. agenda."
   https://god.dailydot.com/russian-bishop-gay-pride/  Russian Orthodox bishop 
Kirill, the official Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow, came out with a rather wild 
claim about "the West" during a sermon, saying that Western nations commit 
genocide upon other countries that refuse to hold gay pride parades. No, really.
https://god.dailydot.com/russian-bishop-gay-pride/https://god.dailydot.com/russian-bishop-gay-pride/
"In a sermon held on Sunday, Russian Church leader, Kirill justified Ukraine's 
invasion & blamed gay pride parades for Russia's invasion of the war-hit 
Ukraine". Written By Ajay Sharma
  CNN. 
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-08-22/  
March 8, 2022. "Russian Orthodox Church alleges gay pride parades were part of 
the reason for Ukraine war   From CNNs Delia Gallagher in Rome... Patriarch 
Kirill of Moscow, a long-time ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said on 
Sunday that the conflict in Donbas is about "a fundamental rejection of the 
so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power." The 
"test" of which side you are on, said Kirill, is whether your country is 
willing to hold gay pride parades. "In order to enter the club of those 
countries, it is necessary to hold a gay pride parade. Not to make a political 
statement, 'we are with you,' not to sign any agreements, but to hold a gay 
parade. And we know how people resist these demands and how this resistance is 
suppressed by force," Kirill said during a sermon in Moscow. "
    
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/world/europe/putin-proposes-constitutional-ban-on-gay-marriage.html
  
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putins-amendments-revere-god-ban-sex-marriages-
    Russia bans same sex marriages. Russian President Vladimir Putin has 
submitted a slew of proposed amendments to the country's constitution that 
include a mention of God and describe marriage as a heterosexual union.By 
VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV Associated Press

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Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Don't Just Freeze Russia's Money. Seize It. "Come in 
Telmo! America to Telmo!!" Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 AM
        

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