Women dumping there fertilized eggs!!! Menstrual cycle!!! I say, I say! They 
should be burned, as witches! 
I see yes, cheaper to do natural births, but I think if we want a way past 
abortion, we have to think more clearly. Planned Parenthood could do this 
service (if they wuz smart?). The Church could do this, (If they wuz smart). 
It's like (from a psychological pov) providing a No-Kill Birth Zone, much like 
the No Kill Pet Shelters. 

It may first have to be done overseas first and then we'll play catch up. What 
the political landscape will look like before this springs up as a necessity, 
may resemble something close to the dissolution of the US as a single political 
entity. Then, after the body count gets too tough as our countrymen and women 
start taking losses in a large way, will a majority (not all) want the pain to 
go away. 
It wasn't my idea of a 21st century, but then nobody asked my advice.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2022 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: Does big government have the right to tell you how you may engage 
in consensual​ ​sex?

 
 
 On 7/25/2022 3:57 PM, Dirk Van Niekerk wrote:
  
 

 
  On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 2:46:32 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
  
  
 
 On 7/25/2022 2:19 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 Translating you lament into American English I, the guy, who supplied the 
links are: 1. A work around against abortion seems to be fetal transfer to 
artificial wombs for incubation. The work has been successful on sheep in 
research labs in Japan & The Netherlands. I am in favor of abortion and 
contraceptives. But I see artificial wombs as the next step forward. Its call 
medical progress. Reduce the butchery and raise kids. 
   
 
   It's that last part that is the bigger problem.  When a ten-year old is 
pregnant by a rapist, who's going to raise the kid.  When a woman with three 
young children and a full time job gets pregnant, who's going to raise the kid.
 
 Brent
  
 
  I can only see artificial wombs solving a very limited niche problem for: 1) 
women who had a hysterectomy but have functioning ovaries or frozen away 
ova/embryos.  This will really kill the in vitro fertilization business in the 
pro-life states, because they will insist that every frozen embryo will need to 
be incubated to full term.  In fact, if you believe that life starts at 
conception then IVF clinics kill a lot of "babies".  Each IVF cycle harvests 
about 15 eggs, 2/3 of which are fertilized of which only 1 to 4 are implanted.  
The rest of the embryos are usually eventually destroyed.     
   
 It's not just IVF.  It's estimated that 25% of fertilized ova are aborted by 
the normal menstrual cycle.
 
 Brent
 
 
  2) Women in early pregnancy who have cancer or some other condition for whom 
pregnancy might be hazardous.  But transferring a live fetus in this way will 
be a major undertaking with considerable risk to the fetus.  In the current 
legal environment if the fetus dies in the process of transferring to the 
artificial womb the doctor will probably be charged with murder. 
  The problem is not technology it is public policy and politics.  And no 
number of new technologies will solve that problem. 
  Dirk  
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