Well, the thing is for those in the Churches, if a fetus isn't killed but transferred to a womb, then no death occurs and a child "arrives in the world." If this still isn't good enough for the Religious Right, then they have lost their Raison d' Etre. Many of their members will be sloughed off, because their psychological highground, gets gone. If the children birthed in this way are completely normal, healthy, and these people are still causing trouble, as in violence, then we'll be in a civil war and no use to the EU anyway. Easy target for Putin & Xi. If I were European, I'd keep on expanding fission weapon development, or thermonuclear if you think it's best, just to keep Putin or Xi off your throat. Because in such a case the US becomes unreliable and unstable. The reasoning is, If the cop on the beat becomes a fentanyl addict, one best not rely on him when military trouble arrives. See? we discuss everything on everything!
The problem is not technology it is public policy and politics. And no number of new technologies will solve that problem. Dirk -----Original Message----- From: Dirk Van Niekerk <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2022 6:57 pm Subject: Re: Does big government have the right to tell you how you may engage in consensual sex? On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 2:46:32 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: On 7/25/2022 2:19 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Translating you lament into American English I, the guy, who supplied the links are: 1. A work around against abortion seems to be fetal transfer to artificial wombs for incubation. The work has been successful on sheep in research labs in Japan & The Netherlands. I am in favor of abortion and contraceptives. But I see artificial wombs as the next step forward. Its call medical progress. Reduce the butchery and raise kids. It's that last part that is the bigger problem. When a ten-year old is pregnant by a rapist, who's going to raise the kid. When a woman with three young children and a full time job gets pregnant, who's going to raise the kid. Brent I can only see artificial wombs solving a very limited niche problem for:1) women who had a hysterectomy but have functioning ovaries or frozen away ova/embryos. This will really kill the in vitro fertilization business in the pro-life states, because they will insist that every frozen embryo will need to be incubated to full term. In fact, if you believe that life starts at conception then IVF clinics kill a lot of "babies". Each IVF cycle harvests about 15 eggs, 2/3 of which are fertilized of which only 1 to 4 are implanted. The rest of the embryos are usually eventually destroyed. 2) Women in early pregnancy who have cancer or some other condition for whom pregnancy might be hazardous. But transferring a live fetus in this way will be a major undertaking with considerable risk to the fetus. In the current legal environment if the fetus dies in the process of transferring to the artificial womb the doctor will probably be charged with murder. The problem is not technology it is public policy and politics. And no number of new technologies will solve that problem. Dirk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/36da3aee-3c8b-4bda-89cd-99622585a3d7n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/818939348.1171936.1658796204673%40mail.yahoo.com.
