Since this has been a physics and cosmology forum of sorts, let us not stray too far from technology by positing that unless we can produce the "means of production," so cheaply and from basic materials through technology, our political economy remains the same. If through nano-fabrication we can produce abundance from CHON, carbon-hydrogen-oxygen-nitrogen, then the need for government becomes rather limited, because, why? JC is an ideologue who holds that whatever his party does is absolutely justifiable. For me, whether its Don or Abbott, with these I do have my differences, but was pleasantly surprised how well Don's policies actually worked. For JC, no sympathy for the devil. It's quite an absolutist way of viewing the actions of the monkey we call humans.
-----Original Message----- From: Joel Dietz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:00 am Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin John, For libertarians that identify as rationalists there is a very clear way they can address your concerns. Namely, they could list all of the public goods currently provided by governments and then explain in which cases and over what timeframe they plan to turn them over to free markets. Additionally, if they are free market maximalists they could explain how they plan to move into enclaves where they have no dependencies on public goods provided by governments. Here governments could be defined simply as "an institution which depends on tax revenue (i.e. a form of coercion) to institute its own version of good which may or may not intersect with that of its citizens" Here the overall story arc as promoted by Balaji and others is effectively that mega-corporations powered by crypto will soon be in a position to provide all state services and can effectively de-couple from traditional forms of governance. You could call this a "revolution." Best, Joel On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 at 12:37, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 4:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > I am a nationalist but not an ideologist, I'm not a nationalist or globalist or a ideologist, I am a rationalist. > unlike the democrats and their cash link to Wall Street globalists. Unlike me you are not a rationalist so I'm sure a little thing like logic will not change your opinion one iota but for whatever it's worth, thanks to loopholes in the tax law 39 of the fortune 500 largest corporations paid no federal income tax at all from 2018 through 2020, not one cent. And the trend is getting worse, in 2020 it was 55 corporations, and 73 paid less than half the standard corporate rate of 21%. This includes T-Mobile which had profits of $11.5 billion and not only paid no taxes it actually received a $80 million tax refund! Just a few days ago all 50 Democratic senators voted for a bill that would require all corporations to pay a minimum of 15% taxes, and all 50 Republican senators voted against it, it took the Democratic vice president to break the tie and pass the bill. What was that you were saying about Democratic Wall Street globalists? John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis eredcf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3hrfPj9yY33HbESqXQPCv%2BLUYDw9Pvfiju%3Dx-vbfEbdQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2069521660.1761551.1660119762499%40mail.yahoo.com.

