Since this has been a physics and cosmology forum of sorts, let us not stray 
too far from technology by positing that unless we can produce the "means of 
production," so cheaply and from basic materials through technology, our 
political economy remains the same. If through nano-fabrication we can produce 
abundance from CHON, carbon-hydrogen-oxygen-nitrogen, then the need for 
government becomes rather limited, because, why? 
JC is an ideologue who holds that whatever his party does is absolutely 
justifiable. For me, whether its Don or Abbott, with these I do have my 
differences, but was pleasantly surprised how well Don's policies actually 
worked. 
For JC, no sympathy for the devil. It's quite an absolutist way of viewing the 
actions of the monkey we call humans. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Dietz <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2022 7:00 am
Subject: Re: The collapse of bitcoin

John,
For libertarians that identify as rationalists there is a very clear way they 
can address your concerns. Namely, they could list all of the public goods 
currently provided by governments and then explain in which cases and over what 
timeframe they plan to turn them over to free markets. Additionally, if they 
are free market maximalists they could explain how they plan to move into 
enclaves where they have no dependencies on public goods provided by 
governments.
Here governments could be defined simply as "an institution which depends on 
tax revenue (i.e. a form of coercion) to institute its own version of good 
which may or may not intersect with that of its citizens" 
Here the overall story arc as promoted by Balaji and others is effectively that 
mega-corporations powered by crypto will soon be in a position to provide all 
state services and can effectively de-couple from traditional forms of 
governance. You could call this a "revolution." 
Best, 
Joel 
On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 at 12:37, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 4:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote:


>  I am a nationalist but not an ideologist, 

I'm not a  nationalist or globalist or a ideologist, I am a rationalist. 

>  unlike the democrats and their cash link to Wall Street globalists.

Unlike me you are not a rationalist so I'm sure a little thing like logic will 
not change your opinion one iota but for whatever it's worth, thanks to 
loopholes in the tax law 39 of the fortune 500 largest corporations paid no 
federal income tax at all from 2018 through 2020, not one cent. And the trend 
is getting worse, in 2020 it was 55 corporations, and 73 paid less than half 
the standard corporate rate of 21%. This includes T-Mobile which had profits of 
$11.5 billion and not only paid no taxes it actually received a $80 million tax 
refund! Just a few days ago all 50 Democratic senators voted for a bill that 
would require all corporations to pay a minimum of 15% taxes, and all 50 
Republican senators voted against it, it took the Democratic vice president to 
break the tie and pass the bill. What was that you were saying about Democratic 
Wall Street globalists?


  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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