On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 9:14 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
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*> Now PizzaGate is something I never heard of, being that it was sourced
> to QAnon, which I have never been to.*
>

Well, Trump has certainly heard of PizzaGate and QAnon and he must've liked
what he heard for him to invite one of its most prominent members to his
home.  And even a man as ignorant as Trump has probably heard of Hitler,
but that hasn't stopped him from being pals with notorious Hitler lovers.

*> The thing I keep pestering JC about is policy*
>

And I keep saying I didn't like Trump's *POLICY* of nullifying any election
he loses so he could become a right wing dictator. I don't like Trump's *POLICY
*of turning the US into a banana republic. I didn't like Trump's* POLICY *of
withholding military aid to Ukraine unless its president publicly announced
it was investigating Trump's presidential competitor. I didn't like Trump's*
POLICY* of putting people on the Supreme Court who would have been virtual
clones of him except that they had the additional flaw of being religious
zealots who would be nearly indistinguishable from the ayatollahs in Iran
if the words "Jesus" and "Mohammed" were exchanged.

> *For 2024 we could see the Reps split apart as John described in another
> thread, tween Mar-A-Largo voters and De Santis peeps. There is also this
> scenario by a democrat election group, where Third Way successfully runs a
> candidate where Trump loyalists stick behind him, no matter what, however
> this fractures the Dem support for Biden. You can read and decide for
> yourselves if this is viable?*
> Dems 'Alarmed' at Bizarre Scenario That Could See Donald Trump Take Back
> the White House in 2024 – RedState
> <https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2022/12/08/dems-alarmed-at-bizarre-scenario-that-could-see-donald-trump-take-back-the-white-house-in-2024-n670771>
>

A third party candidate can't win but sometimes they can decide who does win
; Trump can thank the Libertarian and Green parties for his 2016 victory.
Those parties also hurt Biden in 2020 but not enough to keep him from
winning. This new organization that you referred to should really be called
Fifth Wave not Third Wave, and all it's likely to do, even if it manages to
gain some momentum, is to split the third party vote that wouldn't be going
to Biden anyway. The Green and Libertarian parties should worry about this
more than the Democrats.

By contrast the modern Republican Party, that is to say the Republican
party after it went nuts, has never had to face a third party challenge,
but if Donald Trump doesn't win the Republican nomination it's virtually
certain to face a very serious third-party challenge from a former
president in 2024 ensuring a democratic victory.

*> and the reason I pester him about policy is something you'd think an
> engineer would groove on, a flowchart diagram. Let us use Joey as an
> example. Or, the greater DNC? Do releasing criminals for street crimes
> produce more or less crime, and crime victims? < y/n>*
>

 Oh for Darwin's sake! In the first place, on a list of problems facing the
US, Street crime is not even in the top 10. In the second place it's a fact
that 7 of the 10 states with the HIGHEST per-capita rates of violent crime
voted Republican in 2020, and 7 of the 10 states with the LOWEST per-capita
rates of violent crime voted Democratic in 2020. However I realize facts
will never change your political opinions because facts had nothing to do
with how they were originally formed.

*> Politics has nothing in it basically, in my oppy except to fund
> Technology to solve actual problems, troubles, inequality, whatever. *
>

And I didn't like Trump's *POLICY *of radically reducing research and
development spending:

Trump's 2021 budget drowns science agencies in red ink, again
<https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-s-2021-budget-drowns-science-agencies-red-ink-again#:~:text=The%20government's%20investment%20in%20scientific,%242.822%20billion%2C%20to%20%2440.638%20billion.>

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