Ok, just to be clear you are indicating that pure, Christianity started with 
The Protestant Reformation? So, is Martin Luther the founder of The Church, or 
Henry the 8th, Calvin? John Knox? We still go back to the sciences which 
dictate to us, no matter what one's philosophical views are, it is what one can 
produce in real life? 

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From: Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com>
To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2022 3:13 pm
Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next 
year

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div.yiv1693797709WordSection1 {}-->[Philip Benjamin]        . Nothing 
pertinent. What is relevant here is that occultism is paganism, pagans have 
been transformed without self-reformation. Moses was an adopted Egyptian murder 
prince, Saul of Tarsus qas a murder, pharisee Rabii, Augustine was a 
Greco-Roman pagan profligate. Nothing to do with unregenerated “conscious” 
states. And so many ordinary peoples besides.   Philip Benjamin  Friday, 
December 30, 2022 11:00 AM
To: medinucl...@hotmail.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next 
year spudboy100@ ; everything-list@googlegroups.com        I know little of the 
Church fathers am not sure of Paul of Tarsus (Tent maker for the Roman legions) 
was a Rabbi. But,He was for you guys, nevertheless, on his road to Tarsus! I 
did learn this year that most of the bishops were the sons of Roman senators 
who still inherited the manors after the Sack of Rome in 476 AD., It really 
expanded the Church origins for me. They made the structure of The Church 
identical to the fallen empire. For me it explained a lot of Europe's history, 
its religion, its class system, and so forth. Not to mention the Eastern Empire 
which continued for 9 centuries before it got absorbed into Islam. 1453 AD.    
How the Fall of Constantinople in 1453 Changed History Forever 
(thehistoryace.com)    If the vast, amount of scientific research is conducted 
by Pagans-Atheists-Agnostics, and they generate the preponderance of the 
measurable data with, (repeatable experiments) what are you going to do? I 
suppose we shall wait for The Book of Revelations to finally play out, and The 
Hero to return to the stage to judge the living and the dead? Do you think the 
new heaven and the new earth will be from this?  spudboy100@ 
;everything-list@googlegroups.com ​     Dyson spheres: The key to resurrection 
and immortality? - Big Think (Be warned, Pagan!)       Cosmic chocolate 
pralines? General neutron star structure revealed (phys.org)    Happy New Year 
to All! Cosmologically speaking that is.    -----Original Message-----
From: Philip Benjamin <medinucl...@hotmail.com>
To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2022 10:54 am
Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next 
year general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A 
paranormal prediction for the next year [Philip Benjamin]      I remember a 
high elected member of the federal government who was very conservative with 
respect to classical norms and mores abruptly endorsing alternate lifestyle 
correct and normal when a close relative came out of the closet.        The 
question here is, what makes modern paganism ( ancient heathenism) different 
from a rebirth or regeneration life and consequent culture or ethos. Physical 
BIRTH for a person is ONLY once. So also, REBIRTH is ONLY once by regeneration. 
Augustinian transformation is an example. Myriads of others can be 
cited—Abraham, Moses, Rabbi Saul of Tarsus etc. A transformation is 
reformation, but all reformations but not vice versa. That is a historical and 
historic difference with distinction.  WAMP the-Ingrate knows not!! Philip 
Benjamin          From: 'Rosemary   via Consciousness-Online 
<general_the...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 3:47 PM
To: general_the...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: A paranormal prediction for the next 
year   Dear Philip ,   What a wonderfully useful 
linkhttps://www.richardcassaro.com/prince-charles-publicly-reveals-the-secret-doctrine-of-the-occult/
 2016. Thank you

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