On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:37 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:29 AM Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com>
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> >> If you were on a debate team and given the side that children should
>>> be allowed to play on the highway could you have made a better case for
>>> that activity and had a better chance at winning the debate trophy?
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>> *> The point is that just because ChatGPT can make an argument, doesn't
>> mean it's a good one.*
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> If you are given a lousy position to take in a debate you can't really
> make a "good" argument, but my point was that ChatGPT can make the best
> of a bad situation and make an argument at least as well as a human can,
> and certainly far better if time is a consideration because ChatGPT can
> think on its feet very quickly.
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No argument here. It looked like you were using the debate question and
answer to provide a kind of argument or evidence that chatGPT is conscious
- that's what I was refuting, by showing that chatGPT is capable of making
an argument no matter how unlikely the premise.

Terren


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