On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:33 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:39 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com>
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>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com>
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>> *>>> For comparison you could posit a theory, MWI*, which is MWI plus the
>>> provision that only one exists with probability as defined by the Born
>>> rule.  Would MWI* be a different interpretation than modern-CI? *
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>> >> In that case  MWI* would be the same as CI un that neither could
>> explain why Schrodinger's equation and the Born rule treat one world
>> very differently from all the others that makes it more real.  MWI* we
>> have to start talking about measurement and observers and all that crap.
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>> *All that crap that makes up everything we observe, write down, report
>> and cite in papers?  That crap?*
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> Yes. If somebody proposes a theory that would have profound physical and
> philosophical implications and a key ingredient of that theory is something
> called "measurement " that seems to have magical abilities and nobody can
> even approximately explain what a measurement is, much less how it works
> it's magic, then that theory is 100% extra virgin triple distilled premium
> grade CRAP.
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> Speaking of crap, Einstein once asked Niels Bohr a very interesting
> question, "*do you believe the moon doesn't exist when you're not looking
> at it?*". Apparently Bohr's response has been lost to history.
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I believe it was Pais that he asked this question to, but he was in the
same camp of the non-realists like Bohr.

Jason

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