Announce when its out Dr. P. I'm in a dowloading mood from Zon.
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 11:39:34 AM EDT, John Clark
<[email protected]> wrote:
Giulio Prisco wrote on
https://www.turingchurch.com/p/irrational-mechanics-draft-ch-14
>"I’ve been talking of the ultimate God (the cosmic operating system, aka Mind
>at Large" [...] The cosmic operating system is alive and aware, or better
>super alive and super aware, and computes above and beyond what we call time.
I like your term "cosmic operating system", but I think it's a mistake to
equate that to the traditional concept of God. The Cosmic Operating System is
not a person or even a super person, it need not be conscious or intelligent
and it might operate the universe but not have created the universe. The
existence of the universe might turn out to be a logical necessity because
"nothingness" is unstable.
> "We need, or at least I need, a concept of life after death that is solid
> enough to suspend disbelief. Without such a concept of life after death I
> would fall into the deepest state of paralyzing despair, and jump off the
> closest window to exit this unpleasant game but God is not enough".
As far as life after death is concerned, the idea of an invisible man in the
sky does not give me any comfort or hope, especially not a God as unpleasant as
the Christian or Muslim God. The existence of God is not necessary or
sufficient for life after death, but the fact that quantum mechanics says
information cannot be destroyed because everything evolves according to the
Schrodinger equation in a reversible deterministic way is a little more
interesting; of course quantum mechanics could turn out to be wrong about that
but I sorta doubt it, so it gives me a little hope. Not a lot but a little.
That's why I'm going to have my brain frozen to liquid nitrogen temperatures
when I die. I want the information that makes me be me be scrambled as little
as possible. I want to make it as easy as I can for your cosmic operating
system.
> "and penultimate God-like cosmic engineers"
I don't think such cosmic engineers exist in the observable universe… at least
not yet. I believe that if someday we build a Jupiter brain and then ask it
"does God exist?" His reply will be "He does now".
> "I guess there is a high degree of entanglement between persons who love the
> same people, do the same things, or have similar thoughts and feelings,
Quantum entanglement is a real thing and there is even a theory that the
geometry of spacetime is the product of the quantum entanglement of information
and there's some sort of correlation between spatial distance and entanglement,
but so far it's just a theory, or maybe a theory for a theory.
> and that entanglement propagates in time.
Your sort of entanglement and quantum entanglement do have that in common.
> "I don’t think technological resurrection needs a perfect copy of a quantum
> state."
I think that is a virtual certainty, otherwise you'd become a different person
many trillions of times every second, every time an air molecule bumped into
you and changed the quantum state of your body.
John K Clark
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