On 10/3/2024 12:16 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 7:03 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

        *>> All Many Worlds says is that everything always obeys
        Schrodinger's Wave Equation, it never collapses,*


    /> That's right.  It never says where the Born rule comes from. /


*1) Many worlds is the only quantum interpretation that even tries to derive the Born Rule, the others just assume it's true. *

*2) Gleason's theorem mathematically proves that in dimensions of 3 or greater and if all probabilities are required to be non-negative, and add up to exactly 1, then the only consistent way to assign probabilities isthe squared amplitudes of the wavefunction, provided you also insist that any combination of two valid quantum states is also a valid quantum state. *

*So the real question Many Worlds needs to answer is not why is probability the squared amplitudes of the wavefunction but rather why is probability necessary at all given the fact that Schrodinger's wave equation is 100% deterministic? The answer is because of self locating uncertainty. In the instant after the split but before an observer has registered the outcome of a measurement there is only one rational way to apportion credence as to which branch of the wave function he is on and that is the Born Rule.*
But how many branches are there and how does the evolution of the Schroedinger equation produce those numbers?  It would be equally rational, and empirically consistent, to suppose that the Born rule assigned a probability weight to one branch representing each possible result.  Many Worlds has no answer to these questions except to point out that they give the right answer...the same answer as Copenhagen's collapse rule gives.

Brent

*Sean Carrolland Charles Sebens go into much more detail here: *

*Many Worlds, the Born Rule, and Self-Locating Uncertainty* <https://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7907>

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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