A vote for Trump, framed as a challenge to billionaire influence or a protection of democratic values, warrants looking at the facts. Not voting "with pleasure". That's a giveaway that Spud votes emotionally. The idea that Trump opposes the oligarchic grip on U.S. politics runs counter to his record. Trump has relied heavily on donations from wealthy backers and has implemented policies favoring the richest Americans, such as corporate tax cuts that primarily benefited the top income brackets. His administration’s alignment with powerful elites underscores that his election would not dismantle billionaire influence but rather enlarge it, with our serf being the their prime target. The Citizens United decision, which Trump has not opposed, further entrenches corporate and wealthy donors in the political landscape, making it unlikely that voting for Trump will counter the sway of billionaires like Soros—or any wealthy individual—over the political process.
Concerns about protecting constitutional rights similarly require scrutiny. While Trump supporters often invoke fears about threats to the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments, Trump’s own actions have frequently shown a disregard for these rights. His administration’s support for increased surveillance, suppression of protestors, and hostile rhetoric toward journalists reflect a troubling stance on civil liberties. The inconsistency in his selective support for certain rights, such as gun ownership, does not align with a comprehensive defense of individual freedoms. A vote for Trump under the assumption that he protects constitutional rights overlooks these authoritarian tendencies. In a democracy, the potential for individuals with authoritarian leanings to gain power underscores a fundamental flaw in our current political structure. Just as we would not let those with histories of violence run schools, we should not allow individuals exhibiting authoritarian traits to influence democratic processes. It’s akin to a security engineer knowingly allowing a virus into a software system; the resulting erosion of democratic integrity can be profound. Moreover, casting a vote for Trump in the hope of combating the billionaire class is self-contradictory. A vote for Trump aligns with broader conservative agendas, which often include opposing abortion rights, the ACA, and international alliances like NATO. It also signals support for cutting taxes for the wealthiest, ignoring climate change, neglecting pandemic preparedness, deporting millions, and using state power to suppress opponents as Brent has pointed out. Ultimately, voting itself is a concept rooted in the very “woke” idea of societal responsibility and communal values—ironically, voting for Trump contradicts this ethos. The question remains: does the serf truly believe their vote for Trump will negate the influence of billionaires or overturn the very structures they claim to oppose? That in 4 years his life will magically change? At least a win for Trump would expose the big fat lie his supporters have fallen for hook, line, and sinker: That 2020 was stolen and that January 6 was not an attempt at insurrection by authoritarian interests and the serfs they manipulated. On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 4:08:30 PM UTC+1 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 7:42:56 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > > In brief reply, any political party that accepts George Soros/ActBlue > campaign donation$ in Exchange for obey George and Alex's Policies, can > never, by definition make me worry about Don being a Fascist or the Reps > being fascistic. Your team wants Constitutional Ammendments eliminted, > including the 1st 2nd & 4th. > > > You have an undiagnosed form of dementia, and AFAICT, it's uncurable. AG > > > On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 07:46:46 PM EDT, Brent Meeker < > [email protected]> wrote: > You're voting against allowing women to choose abortions, against the ACA, > against supporting Ukraine, NATO, Taiwan, S. Korea and for Putin, Xi, and > Kim. You're voting for more tax cuts for the highest bracket and tariffs > to tax consumers. You're voting for ignoring global warming and for not > planning for pandemics. You're voting for deporting some 10 million > immigrants. You're for using the justice system and the military to > suppress Trump's opponents. Well I guess I understand that last one; you > think you'll be a member of the new Fasicista. > > Brent > > > On 11/1/2024 1:30 PM, '[email protected]' via Everything List wrote: > > Your candidate's Policies are so horrible, that voting for Don is a > pleasure. I vote on Policy, JC, not character, likeability, virtueousness, > friendliness, etc. I figure we'll have chaos for the next several months, > so buckle up, we're all for a bumpy ride (All About Eve quote). > > On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 03:59:13 PM EDT, John Clark > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 2:33 PM '[email protected]' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *> Cheney doesn't fight the wars she sends US soldiers to perish in. How'd > she like it. * > > > *I know for a fact Trump doesn't want people shooting at him, that's why > he asked his daddy to get him out of the draft during the Vietnam war. It > seems that Donald has bone spurs in his feet which makes him unfit to > fight, or at least that's what a doctor's note to the draft board said, a > Doctor who's landlord just happened to be Donald Trump's daddy.* > > *When asked in 2016 which foot was supposed to have the bone spurs Donald > said he couldn't remember; you'd think you'd remember something like that, > especially if you had a "wonderful memory" like Trump claims he has. * > > *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > dtd > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1AXuYCh2MFQ51FGfmTUg6b9mcZTfSuWuNzjgSrBdTJAw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1AXuYCh2MFQ51FGfmTUg6b9mcZTfSuWuNzjgSrBdTJAw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1905930938.9039294.1730493000469%40mail.yahoo.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1905930938.9039294.1730493000469%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/74918e09-caad-4c1e-9152-371d073f1cd5%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/74918e09-caad-4c1e-9152-371d073f1cd5%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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