On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 6:24 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

*>> I've noticed that you have not mentioned what your favorite quantum
>> interpretation is, nor has Bruce Kellett, but if I were to guess I would
>> say both of you are fans of the Shut Up And Calculate (a.k.a. Copenhagen)
>> quantum interpretation. Am I correct? *
>
>
> *> No.  First, "Shut up and calculate" is a caricature of the "Copenhagen"
> interpretation*
>

*I don't think so, Niels Bohr asks us to just accept that something can
exist and not exist and to stop thinking about it anymore. *


> *> which was never even well defined. *
>

*Saying Copenhagen was never well defined is a huge understatement, I don't
think it would be going too far to call it gibberish. Niels Bohr was a
great physicist but a lousy philosopher.*

*>The Neo-Copenhagen interpretation which says decoherence somehow selects
> which probability is realized*
>

*For some reason when I read the word "somehow" in the above I remembered
an old joke "Besides that Mrs. Lincoln how did you like the play?".  *


> *> I see short comings in all the interpretations. *
>

*I have said more than once that Many Worlds is the best bad quantum
interpretation, maybe tomorrow somebody will come up with something better,
but until then I'm sticking with Many Worlds, if it's wrong it's probably
because it's not strange enough because no interpretation is ever going to
get rid of quantum weirdness.  *


> *> Maybe least in the epistemic interpretation, although the PBR theorem
> purports to show it's inconsistent with standard QM. *
>

*Indeed.  *


> * > There's also superdeterminism*
>

*Superdeterminism?! I think that's the single stupidest idea in all of
physics because it's literally impossible to have a greater violation of
Occam's razor. For superdeterminism to work you need to make, not an
astronomical number but an INFINITE number of assumptions, out of the
infinite number of states the early universe could have been in only one of
them will work. *

 *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

*oow*

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