Probabilities are like energies.  Physically they take different forms: frequentist, Bayesian, credence, wagers...  And like energies there is there is a common mathematical theory which they obey and which can be used to transform between the different forms.

Brent

On 12/1/2024 12:48 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

    On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 10:10 AM smitra <[email protected]> wrote:

        /> What is also worthwhile to consider in these discussions
        about probability,
         Born rule etc. the fact that probability cannot berigorously
        defined in a physical
        context  as David Deutsch explains here
        *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzSE4Hoxbc&t=1036s*
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzSE4Hoxbc&t=1036s>/


    *Interesting video, thank you for recommending it. I think Deutsch
    does a good job highlighting the fact that any theory that
    attempts to deal with fundamental reality is going to have a
    problem when it comes to probability, but if Many Worlds has a
    problem rigorously defining probability then the other fundamental
    quantum interpretations do it even more poorly. And if Many Worlds
    is true, or nearly so, and if intelligent creatures who enjoy
    gambling exist in some of those worlds, then they are going to
    develop something close to the thing that in English is called
    "probability" and they are not going to worry very much about a
    rigorous definition of it or the deep philosophical problems that
    it may entail. *

    *John K Clark *


No question about it; Deutsch is a genius and fits the definition of cultist. Consider this; can we ever get to the limit in any calculus problem? And this isn't a version of Zeno's paradox. AG

    lad

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