On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 5:13:04 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 1:43 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > *What we have are two frames which reach opposiite conclusions about whether the car can fit in the garage.* *If that is true then Special Relativity is nonsense, and so is General Relativity because it is built on that foundation. But physicists tell me neither idea is nonsense and I find the argument they present to defend their view to be very VERY persuasive. * *But that's what we have! -- two frames which reach opposite conclusions about whether the car can fit in the garage! Introducing simultaneity obfusates this simple fact! The car frame indicates the car cannot fit due to the initial condition, and the garage frame indicates it does fit. Why is this so hard to understand? If the initial condition says the car cannot fit because its length is too large, why cannot the garage observer assert it can fit because via length contraction, the car's length can be measured arbitrarily short? AG* > *This seems paradoxical to me, but perhaps I am mistaken. * *Either Einstein was wrong in 1905 and all professional physicists for the last 120 years have been wrong in accepting Einstein's argument, or you Alan Grayson are correct and have found a flaw that nobody in the last 120 years had noticed before. Which do you honestly think is more probable? * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* pnt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/bbcd56d5-bb88-469b-87b4-aa9e041f5f10n%40googlegroups.com.
