On Monday, December 9, 2024 at 5:31:17 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 3:55 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> This is nonsense.* [...] Obviously, the paradox exists only when the car speeds up, to a sufficient speed so it can fit exactly in the garage.which you refuse to admit. *I admit that in different frames of reference clocks running at different speeds and meter-sticks having different lengths is odd, but you need more than strangeness to have a paradox. My high school physics textbook explained, and I'm sure many others did too, that Einstein discovered that these two effects cancel out in such a way that no logical contradiction is ever produced, and that's what's required to have a paradox. I'd suggest that you read such a textbook but I know you never will, and even if you did you'd just say the textbook was wrong as were all physicists since 1905. * *John K Clark * *Since the contracted length of the car, from the pov of the garage, can be arbitraily close to zero, as v --> c, there's no way that the car cannot fit in the garage, from the pov of the garage. But from the pov of the car, assumed to have length greater than the garage as an initial condition, the car can never be contained within the garage, as the garage length shrinks. These are the facts. Why don't you focus on the facts, instead of on other BS, such as what I will or won't read? These results are paradoxical if and only if it is assumed there is some objective reality, such as the objective reality that the car can OR cannot fit in the garage. On the issue of time dilation, please be specific about how time dilation somehow cancels out space contraction. AG * hr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c8dc60d7-a253-4979-b135-12d1b84f952fn%40googlegroups.com.

