On Tuesday, December 17, 2024 at 8:48:59 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:

Banning mandates also means not subsidizing vaccines, which may make them 
quite expensive.  Then the fraction vaccinated will fall below the 
herd-immunity threshold and we'll be back to closing public swimming pools 
because of polio epidemics, like when I was a kid in Texas.

Brent

 
Yeah, I recall that when I was a kid in a place no one today knows of; 
Brooklyn, NY. AG 




On 12/17/2024 7:33 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

In Trump's press conference yesterday, he stated he wouldn't support a 
outright ban on the polio vaccine, but he was strongly opposed to vaccine 
"mandates". And RFK Jr. has recently disavoved his suport of a ban on the 
polio vaccines. But mandates have been the method to achieve Herd Immunity. 
While RFK Jr will continue to create foster public mistrust of vaccines, 
and Trump will endorse a ban on mandates as supporting the "freedom to 
choose", we are likely on the brink of destroying Herd Immunity for these 
fatal diseases. I project there exists a sufficient percent of devout MAFA 
supporters, who will unwittingly follow their guru, leading to the demise 
of Herd Immunity. And while it's true that the States are the primary 
administrators in control of education where the mandates are enforced, the 
Federal government strongly finances education in the various States, along 
with other subsides, Trump has the power to coerse the States to ban 
vaccine mandates. AG

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19
 

*The percentage of people who need to be immune in order to achieve herd 
immunity varies with each disease. For example, herd immunity against 
measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 
5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those 
who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%. The proportion 
of the population that must be vaccinated against COVID-19 to begin 
inducing herd immunity is not known. This is an important area of research 
and will likely vary according to the community, the vaccine, the 
populations prioritized for vaccination, and other factors.  *

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