How do you expect you can properly fix a car if you don't know how it function ? You just do guesswork, you give it a few kicks and maybe it starts. This is how present-day science works given that it doesn't work based on fundamentals, namely based on the working of consciousness. Sure, you can keep doing research this way: kick it till it works. And you might save a few lives. But if you were start from fundamentals, then you would know exactly what you were doing and you will save 8 billion lives. Not that it would matter at that point, given that at that level of development we will manipulate consciousness to such a degree that we will not even need bodies anymore.
On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:17:26 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:11:38 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: > > @Alan. You can do cancer research. But since that research is not based on > fundamental ideas about reality, it will be just guesswork: Just try 1000 > different drugs and cross fingers that one might work. Instead, if people > would actually understand consciousness, they would cure cancer in 1 week. > > > *I might believe that if you were able to contribute ANYTHING to ANY > problem discussed here. All I read are grandiose claims with nothing > practical forthcoming. AG* > > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:08:48 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:01:18 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: > > You can continue cancer research. But is just like playing World of > Warcraft in order to get the legendary gear. > > > *If you get cancer, which is not my wish, you can tell your doctor that > the pain and suffering is purely imaginary, not to mention the possible > early termination of your life. Now, do us all a favor and cease posting > like a fool. AG * > > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 16:48:23 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: > > *You didn't answer my question. Should cancer research be stopped, and if > not why not? * > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:35 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > You make the classical confusion between epistemology and ontology. Only > because you can watch a movie with Spider-Man (epistemology), it doesn't > follow that Spider-Man exists (ontology). > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 15:39:31 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 8:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *>>the question of list moderation would not be relevant at this time if > one very recent list member didn't think page after page of nothing but > "(:>)" characters was an intelligent rebuttal, and ALL scientific questions > of the form "what is the nature of X?" can be answered by simply saying "X > does not exist".* > > > > *> Of course, given that consciousness is all there is. Why would you > waste time talking about things that don't exist ?* > > > *So there's no point in doing cancer research because cancer does not > exist? Do I have that right? * > * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2983c32c-d038-43ef-9223-3f0bc3469ffen%40googlegroups.com.
