Where did I say that the next life will be better ? On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 22:09:01 UTC+2 Terren Suydam wrote:
> Serious question - what's stopping you from killing yourself and speeding > up the transition to happiness? > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 3:04 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm millionaire, why would I need a job ? Also, if we were to understand >> consciousness fully, then we will know for sure what to expect after death. >> And in case we would expect happiness, then we will even stop finding any >> cure for cancer. We will celebrate cancer. All of our current decisions are >> made based on incomplete knowledge of the truth. As such, we make the >> decisions based on what we imagine reality to be, not on what it actually >> is. >> >> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 21:37:03 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 12:30:07 PM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> It depends what kind of person you are. If you are a depressed person, >>> curing you of cancer will not do any good. On the contrary, if you would >>> have died you would havd gotten a chance at happiness in the next life. >>> >>> >>> *You have to be right. Stop your BS, assuming you know more than you >>> actually do, or get a job, or jerkoff, but no more of your stupidity. AG * >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 21:06:51 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> I just opened a topic a while back about the definition of the word >>> "useful" that you keep abusing. Let's remind you: >>> >>> Useful = whatever increases happiness. >>> Useless = whatever doesn't increase happiness. >>> >>> My philosophy, I guarantee you 100%, increases happiness, so is useful. >>> Getting cured of cancer might still let you depressed, so cancer cure is >>> useless. >>> >>> >>> *You can't be very conscious and make such a hugely stupid comment. >>> Don't ya think that being cured of cancer is immensely happier than >>> succumbing to it? AG* >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 19:59:29 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 9:53:59 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> How do you expect you can properly fix a car if you don't know how it >>> function ? You just do guesswork, you give it a few kicks and maybe it >>> starts. This is how present-day science works given that it doesn't work >>> based on fundamentals, namely based on the working of consciousness. Sure, >>> you can keep doing research this way: kick it till it works. And you might >>> save a few lives. But if you were start from fundamentals, then you would >>> know exactly what you were doing and you will save 8 billion lives. Not >>> that it would matter at that point, given that at that level of development >>> we will manipulate consciousness to such a degree that we will not even >>> need bodies anymore. >>> >>> >>> *About 60 years ago I met a fellow with your philosophy, a Master of >>> Yoga, an adept at "Traditional Science", author of several books, who >>> claimed with great authority that the problem of cancer had been "solved". >>> He never got cancer but died of a heart failure around age 80 in 2008. AG* >>> >>> >>> *My point is that people with your philosophy often make huge claims, >>> with rarely anything practical forthcoming. For example, during the Covid >>> pandemic, a company named Moderna produced a vaccine in record time, using >>> knowledge of DNA, viruses, etc. They couldn't have done that without the >>> discovery of DNA, which no doubt required by the invention of the Electron >>> Microscope. Talk is cheap. We can do great things in the absence of your >>> vague philosophy. Can you actually DO something useful, or is it all talk? >>> AG * >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:17:26 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:11:38 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> @Alan. You can do cancer research. But since that research is not based >>> on fundamental ideas about reality, it will be just guesswork: Just try >>> 1000 different drugs and cross fingers that one might work. Instead, if >>> people would actually understand consciousness, they would cure cancer in 1 >>> week. >>> >>> >>> *I might believe that if you were able to contribute ANYTHING to ANY >>> problem discussed here. All I read are grandiose claims with nothing >>> practical forthcoming. AG* >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:08:48 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:01:18 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> You can continue cancer research. But is just like playing World of >>> Warcraft in order to get the legendary gear. >>> >>> >>> *If you get cancer, which is not my wish, you can tell your doctor that >>> the pain and suffering is purely imaginary, not to mention the possible >>> early termination of your life. Now, do us all a favor and cease posting >>> like a fool. AG * >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 16:48:23 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: >>> >>> *You didn't answer my question. Should cancer research be stopped, and >>> if not why not? * >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:35 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You make the classical confusion between epistemology and ontology. Only >>> because you can watch a movie with Spider-Man (epistemology), it doesn't >>> follow that Spider-Man exists (ontology). >>> >>> On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 15:39:31 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 8:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> *>>the question of list moderation would not be relevant at this time if >>> one very recent list member didn't think page after page of nothing but >>> "(:>)" characters was an intelligent rebuttal, and ALL scientific questions >>> of the form "what is the nature of X?" can be answered by simply saying "X >>> does not exist".* >>> >>> >>> >>> *> Of course, given that consciousness is all there is. Why would you >>> waste time talking about things that don't exist ?* >>> >>> >>> *So there's no point in doing cancer research because cancer does not >>> exist? 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