On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 2:26:02 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 2/12/2025 11:04 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Wednesday, February 12, 2025 at 11:49:23 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote:

AG, your reasoning is flawed because it assumes a contradiction where none 
exists. An infinite universe doesn’t have to "become" infinite—it can be 
infinite at all times, just evolving in density and scale factor. High 
temperature and density at the Big Bang don’t require finiteness; they 
describe local conditions, not global topology. 

Cosmological diagrams showing a "point" origin are simplifications based on 
the observable universe, not statements about the entire cosmos. The 
observable universe was smaller, but an infinite universe was never 
"shrinking" in the way you imply—just getting denser everywhere.


But this contradicts the Cosmological Principle (which might be wrong). AG 

No it doesn't.  Every finite subset of the infinite universe originated in 
a point (at least in the classical analysis).
Brent


So, every finite subset of an infinite universe originated in a point, but 
the entire universe didn't? I can't agree with that. AG 


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