On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 19:48 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > As I understood it, SSL meant a tunneled connection over SSL/TLS, using > the relevant port (995/pops, 993/imaps, 465/smtps, 636/ldaps). TLS means > STARTTLS over a normal connection, so usually using the standard port > (110/143/25/389).
Thanks, that at least explains some of the original intent. It may well be that mail accounts still work this way (I haven't looked closely yet) but I've seen several address book and calendar backends whose behavior appears to be basically "try a secure connection first, or else fall back to a normal connection". I'll take a second look with this new information in mind to make sure I haven't misunderstood something. > It's still quite confusing, especially since SSL is called TLS now since > quite some time. Yeah, the labels need to be clarified regardless. But from a usability perspective, I see no reason why the user interface needs to be any more complex than a "use secure connection" checkbox. If that means we first try a tunneled connection and then fall back to STARTTLS (or vice versa) then that's fine, but we should do it *silently*. Plus we can easily record which method worked for a given mail account or data source and try that method first next time. If picky users want to control which method is tried first then, well, key files are easy to edit. _______________________________________________ evolution-hackers mailing list email@example.com To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers