On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 11:13 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 10:14 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Note: this is a comment on Evo itself, rather than the Evo list. > > > > As someone who posts quite a lot on this list, I'm forever having to > > deal with people replying to my personal address rather than the list > > address. Of course they should be using Reply To List (Ctrl-L) or even > > Reply-To-All (Shift-Ctrl-R) but occasionally they forget and use just > > Reply (Ctrl-R) so one has to remind them. I'm sure other frequent > > contributors find the same thing. > > > > An obvious solution to this is to do what Kmail does. When the message > > being replied to contains a List-Post header, Ctrl-R should do the same > > as Ctrl-L. There should also be a Reply-To-Author command for the rare > > case when the reply should be directed to the message Reply-To field, > > presumably the author's personal address. > > > > This would work on lists, including this one, which follow RFC-2822 and > > don't do "Reply-To munging". For those that do munge the Reply-To field, > > a reply to the author would require some editing, but that's already the > > case with these lists so nothing is lost. > > That's just munging in a different place. As it is, I have the *choice*: > > - I can hit Ctrl-R to reply to you alone. > - I can hit Ctrl-Shift-R to reply to you and the list. > - I can hit Ctrl-L to reply to the list. > > Just like the people who advocate using a Reply-To: header, you're > trying to take away my choices and make one or more of those keystrokes > actually do something _other_ than what I wanted.
Well, no. I'm advocating: - Reply To Author to reply to you alone. - Reply To All to CC the author and reply to the list (the reverse of the current situation). - Ctrl-L to disappear, and Ctrl-R to change to reflect that it's Reply To List. > > (Those who follow the Fedora Users list will know there's been a long > > thread about munging, which that list does do.) > > > > poc > > > > PS If you reply to this, please make sure it goes to the list unless you > > *really* want to say something to me personally :-) > > If you reply to this, please make sure you don't drop me from Cc. I may > only look at the list sporadically (or indeed never; I may not even be > subscribed -- someone may have redirected your mail to me because they > knew I'd be interested). It'd be very rude not to Cc me in your reply. Since you request it, that's what I did. Most people don't do that, which is why I usually use Reply To List. Under my proposed scheme, exactly the same would apply. > That's why I almost never use the Ctrl-L option on mailing lists, unless > I notice that someone asked for it. In the general case, it's much > easier for someone to deal with having two copies, than it is for them > to deal with having *none*. That's more a comment on list netiquette than the mechanics of how the MUA works. I can't recall anyone ever asking explicitly for Ctrl-L (except in the course of discussions about how to reply to lists) but perhaps your experience is different. In any case, you can continue to use Shift-Ctrl-R with the effect you desire. Note that what I'm proposing isn't original. Kmail already works this way. In fact I got the idea when I read http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html poc _______________________________________________ evolution-list mailing list [email protected] To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
