Thanks very much for this long informative reply. As you see I am extremely unhappy with evolution, and would dump it, except that I am even more unhappy with the competition. A sad situation! Comments follow.
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 18:57 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 09:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > As you may remember, I've been running the Evolution mail system under > > Fedora-15/KDE for about a month now, and it has some very serious > > problems, which I can summarize as: > > 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications > > Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font > > control, also its own internal font control window. > > I can't speak for the KDE part, but for the GNOME part this should be > fixed by https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655002 . There is no > stable release including the fix yet, though. I surmise from this that evolution's fonts are controlled by gconf-editor, which manages a tree of control variables for evolution. The only relevant section I can find is /apps/evolution/mail/display/fonts, which says evolution should use a 14 point custom font. This is what I've set in Evolution->Preferences->Message Display but not what evolution does. Should use gsettings instead? > > 1. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes > > taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be > > temporarily cured by restarting it > > I wonder if CAMEL_DEBUG=all could provide some debug output. See > http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml Is there any standard way to show just the communication between evolution and the smtp server? Or should I dump out everything using CAMEL_DEBUG=all and build a filter? > > 1. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing > > message. > > A crash report with a good stacktrace in bugzilla.gnome.org is welcome. > See http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces for a how-to. The Details link > in the last sentence explains how to use gdb for this. Make sure to have > sufficient debug packages installed (but gdb will tell you about this > anyway). I have already done this, in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653957 . The problem is reported to have been fixed in 3.0.3, which is not available in the updates repo, nor on koji. > > I'd like to try out evolution 3.1.x, which seems to be stuck somewhere > > in the pipeline, so I downloaded the latest evolution-3.1.4-1.fc16, > > from koji. Unfortunately it won't run, nor will the source build, due > > to incompatibilities between the versions on koji, which are for fc16 > > and my current fc15 system. > > JHBuild might be an option: http://live.gnome.org/Jhbuild . Note that > https://live.gnome.org/JhbuildDependencies/Fedora is slightly outdated > and does not list Fedora 15 (yet) so you'll run into some issues when > using jhbuild that will require installing additional packages. Looks interesting, but appears to have a major learning curve, particularly if it doesn't support fc15. > > Questions: > > * Do you expect to have an evolution-3.1.x available on updates > > (or wherever) in the near future > > 3.1.x is unstable, so I do hope that no serious distro ships it in their > updates for a stable distro. > To provide a Fedora-specific answer: Either use Fedora 16 or use > Rawhide. Both are unstable and might eat your computer. Thanks for the tip. I had the impression that Suse had released it, but only because I misunderstood their web site. > > * if not, is there any simple way to get the versions on koji to > > install or build on my system? > > That's really a question for a Fedora mailing list, as upstream GNOME > has nothing to do with distributions' infrastructure and packaging. Quite right.
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