Hi Tom, On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 22:33 +0200, Mark Elkins wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 20:15 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > If "users will never compile anything" then why are we expected to do > > so? > > I'm a user. My choice of Operating System is Linux and my choice of > distribution (or flavour) of Linux happens to be Gentoo. > > More often than not, when a package is installed or updated in Gentoo, > its compiled from scratch... Often what is distributed by the Gentoo > Distribution system is very similar to what one may find on a Download > site (ie Source). > > Where this gets very useful is for example with BIND (the DNS) software. > Running 'named -V' shows me how BIND was compiled (the options to > "configure". So now I can go to ISC, Download the source of the latest > version of BIND, then run the "configure" script with the same > configuration the current running version has. After a "make install" - > I have a new Nameserver. > So - I find Download pages very useful. I don't always have to wait for > the Gentoo Distribution gods (the 3rd party mentioned?) to get the > latest version ready for me! > > I guess the other thing I like about Gentoo is I get to learn a little > more about what is beneath the bonnet to the point I can better look > after myself. > > Remember, (1) download, (2) unpackage (tar -xvzf package.tgz) > (around here - explore what you have just unpacked, read the README's > and other files like INSTALL.... and look for 'configure'. > (3) ./configure (with options), (4) make, (5) make install.
I case you find Gentoo and its way of compiling packages too much of a hassle, take a look at Sabayon Linux. It's based on Gentoo, compatible with Gentoo solutions and its rolling release, in fact you about 1-2GB of updates every week. It does have a package manager (entropy), which is the recommended way of installing stuff. And that stuff is pretty much cutting edge. Maybe Evolution is not the latest version (I have 3.8.4), but I find it current enough for my purposes, which is receiving/writing email rather than getting into a huff about bugs in the latest (not so stable) release (And then complaining on this mailinglist). That is not up-to-date enough for you? Go ahead and compile the Gentoo way (yes you can do that on Sabayon if you wish). http://www.sabayon.org/ https://packages.sabayon.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux If you rather into Debian use apt-pinning and take the Evo packages from the experimental branch, that should be pretty cutting edge! :-p https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html Pascal [snip] _______________________________________________ evolution-list mailing list [email protected] To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
