I think a message was sent to the red-carpet list.

Jeff

On 23 Apr 2001 16:01:31 -0700, Hal Eisen wrote:
> 
> > Apparently (and maybe someone from ximian could step up to the plate and
> > get this all straightened out), red-carpet is undergoing some major
> > improvements.  The site is down for a bit (a couple of days atleast) but
> > when it comes back, it should be back better than ever.
> 
> This is useful information - thank you.
> 
> [deletia]
> 
> > As an aside, I find it funny that people in the open source community
> > get so jumpy when software in beta doesn't work.  If we got something in
> > beta from MS we'd be surprised if it worked, but we are so used to
> > running on software that 0.38 (sawfish) or 0.10 (evolution) or 0.9.2
> > (red-carpet) that works fantastically, that we forget that the whole
> > idea of beta is getting it write before you release it, and that we
> > shouldn't be relying to strongly on anything until it's actually
> > released.
> 
> Actually, I'm not convinced the issue is the beta status of the
> software.  My beef is that your loyal beta testers and cheerleaders
> were kept in the dark about the outage.  I interpret that as a lack of
> respect for us.  I think that an email going out on this mailing list
> or a message posted on the web site would have been courteous.
> 
> I recommend that the Ximian developers take a few minutes and visit
> http://www.cluetrain.com and learn how to interact with their
> customers.
> 
> I am still a big supporter of Ximian, install Ximian GNOME on all
> my GNU/Linux boxes and want to use Red Carpet daily to keep my systems
> up to date.  I would also like to be kept in the loop when I'm not
> going to be able to do that.
> 
>                                               Hal
> 
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