> Apparently (and maybe someone from ximian could step up to the plate and
> get this all straightened out), red-carpet is undergoing some major
> improvements.  The site is down for a bit (a couple of days atleast) but
> when it comes back, it should be back better than ever.

This is useful information - thank you.

[deletia]

> As an aside, I find it funny that people in the open source community
> get so jumpy when software in beta doesn't work.  If we got something in
> beta from MS we'd be surprised if it worked, but we are so used to
> running on software that 0.38 (sawfish) or 0.10 (evolution) or 0.9.2
> (red-carpet) that works fantastically, that we forget that the whole
> idea of beta is getting it write before you release it, and that we
> shouldn't be relying to strongly on anything until it's actually
> released.

Actually, I'm not convinced the issue is the beta status of the
software.  My beef is that your loyal beta testers and cheerleaders
were kept in the dark about the outage.  I interpret that as a lack of
respect for us.  I think that an email going out on this mailing list
or a message posted on the web site would have been courteous.

I recommend that the Ximian developers take a few minutes and visit
http://www.cluetrain.com and learn how to interact with their
customers.

I am still a big supporter of Ximian, install Ximian GNOME on all
my GNU/Linux boxes and want to use Red Carpet daily to keep my systems
up to date.  I would also like to be kept in the loop when I'm not
going to be able to do that.

                                                Hal

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Hal J Eisen, TMWTMOASS                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.dunhackin.org/~eisen              Laziness, Impatience, Hubris
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"  --Salvor Hardin
bus error (passengers dumped)                  You can't grep dead trees!

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