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----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: evolution digest, Vol 1 #300 - 15 msgs > Send evolution mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of evolution digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj (Zot O'Connor) > 2. Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (guenther) > 3. Reading mail in different folders (Jeff Trefftzs) > 4. Re: getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj (Mark Gordon) > 5. Re: Reading mail in different folders (guenther) > 6. Re: Reading mail in different folders (Jeff Trefftzs) > 7. filters.xml (Michael Rensing) > 8. Re: Keeping Size of Mail Windows (Michael Vanderford) > 9. Re: Reading Multiple Messages (Ralph Sanford) > 10. Re: Reading Multiple Messages (Jeff Trefftzs) > 11. Re: Reading Multiple Messages (Yu-Hui Calvin Liu) > 12. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Frank Becker) > 13. Re: filters.xml (Xavier Bestel) > 14. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Frank Becker) > 15. Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Nigel Metheringham) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: Zot O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: White Knight Hackers, Inc. > Date: 02 Jul 2003 15:36:17 -0700 > Subject: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj > > red-carpet has a few errors lately. > > It fails on finding a directory for evo 1.2, and connector 1.2. How do > I tell it to stop looking? > > More important is when I try to get evo 1.4 I get: > > > gdm 1:2.2.5.4-1.ximian.25 3.08 MB > depends on: gnome-core > gnome-core-devel 1:1.4.1-1.ximian.4 3.94 MB > depends on: gnome-core > hpoj 0.90-1 1.10 MB > hpoj-devel 0.90-1 46 KB > depends on: hpoj > libglade2-devel 1.99.9-2 312 KB > conflicts with: libglade2 > libsane-hpoj 0.90-1 136 KB > depends on: hpoj > xojpanel 0.90-1 88 KB > depends on: hpoj > > This is a RH 7.3 box. I need hpoj for my printing. Archives/Google do > not show any one else noticing this, and red-carpet does not say why it > is being removed. > > It also loads > cups 1:1.1.14-15.4 4.07 MB -- > needed by: libgnomecups > > which I do not really want since I run lpr-ng successfully. > > libgnomecups 0.1.4-0.ximian.4.2 31 KB -- > needed by: libgnomeprint22 > > libgnomeprint22 2.3.0.cvs.9-0.ximian.4.2 255 KB -- > needed by: evolution > > seems to be where this is coming from. > > > Also red-carpet seems to be taking up 10 minutes and all the CPU and all > the memory while determining dependicies. Is this due to gnome2? Is it > looping? > > Thanks. > > -- > Zot O'Connor > > http://www.ZotConsulting.com > http://www.WhiteKnightHackers.com > -- > Zot O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > White Knight Hackers, Inc. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mark Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 03 Jul 2003 00:39:17 +0200 > > > > > what other encoding would you have Evolution send? base64 is the only > > > encoding that can possibly be used for word docs (since they contain > > > binary data). You can't send word docs as non-encoded 7bit ascii. > > > > > > Jeff > > > > I suppose one could uuencode binaries and attach them as text files. :-P > > > > -Mark Gordon > > You even could save it as an OpenOffice document, unzip the .sxw file > and attach the plain XML... > > ...guenther > > > -- > char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; > main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: > (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: > Date: 02 Jul 2003 15:46:08 -0700 > Subject: [Evolution] Reading mail in different folders > > Hi all, > I came to evo from exmh. Of course evolution is a major step forward, > but there's one thing I miss: the ability to keep reading from folder > to folder without having to explicitly open a new folder. Is there a > setting I'm missing so that I can just keep clicking ] or . to go to the > "next unread" message, regardless of folder? > > TIA, > -- > > --Jeff > > Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php?artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://trefftzs.topcities.com/ Photo Gallery > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj > From: Mark Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Zot O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Ximian, Inc. > Date: 02 Jul 2003 18:50:52 -0400 > > Updating to Evolution 1.4 on Red Hat Linux 7.3 without concurrently > updating to XD2 is not currently recommended. It requires enough > changes to GNOME, for example, that unless one is running KDE to start > with, it's likely to break things. This might get resolved at some > point, but for now, my advice is to either stick with Evolution 1.2.4, > or upgrade to XD2, or upgrade to Red Hat Linux 8.0 (for which the > Evolution-only install is much more feasible). > > Red Carpet can take a lot of time trying to resolve especially > complicated dependency situations. It could probably be more efficient, > but I suspect it just took that long to come up with an advised course > of action. > > -Mark Gordon > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 18:36, Zot O'Connor wrote: > > red-carpet has a few errors lately. > > > > It fails on finding a directory for evo 1.2, and connector 1.2. How do > > I tell it to stop looking? > > > > More important is when I try to get evo 1.4 I get: > > > > > > gdm 1:2.2.5.4-1.ximian.25 3.08 MB > > depends on: gnome-core > > gnome-core-devel 1:1.4.1-1.ximian.4 3.94 MB > > depends on: gnome-core > > hpoj 0.90-1 1.10 MB > > hpoj-devel 0.90-1 46 KB > > depends on: hpoj > > libglade2-devel 1.99.9-2 312 KB > > conflicts with: libglade2 > > libsane-hpoj 0.90-1 136 KB > > depends on: hpoj > > xojpanel 0.90-1 88 KB > > depends on: hpoj > > > > This is a RH 7.3 box. I need hpoj for my printing. Archives/Google do > > not show any one else noticing this, and red-carpet does not say why it > > is being removed. > > > > It also loads > > cups 1:1.1.14-15.4 4.07 MB -- > > needed by: libgnomecups > > > > which I do not really want since I run lpr-ng successfully. > > > > libgnomecups 0.1.4-0.ximian.4.2 31 KB -- > > needed by: libgnomeprint22 > > > > libgnomeprint22 2.3.0.cvs.9-0.ximian.4.2 255 KB -- > > needed by: evolution > > > > seems to be where this is coming from. > > > > > > Also red-carpet seems to be taking up 10 minutes and all the CPU and all > > the memory while determining dependicies. Is this due to gnome2? Is it > > looping? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Zot O'Connor > > > > http://www.ZotConsulting.com > > http://www.WhiteKnightHackers.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading mail in different folders > From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 03 Jul 2003 00:53:55 +0200 > > > > I came to evo from exmh. Of course evolution is a major step forward, > > but there's one thing I miss: the ability to keep reading from folder > > to folder without having to explicitly open a new folder. Is there a > > setting I'm missing so that I can just keep clicking ] or . to go to the > > "next unread" message, regardless of folder? > > Create a vFolder that will display only "unread" mail in any specified > set of folders. > > ...guenther > > > -- > char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; > main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: > (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading mail in different folders > From: Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: > Date: 02 Jul 2003 16:07:46 -0700 > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 15:53, guenther wrote: > > > I came to evo from exmh. Of course evolution is a major step forward, > > > but there's one thing I miss: the ability to keep reading from folder > > > to folder without having to explicitly open a new folder. Is there a > > > setting I'm missing so that I can just keep clicking ] or . to go to the > > > "next unread" message, regardless of folder? > > > > Create a vFolder that will display only "unread" mail in any specified > > set of folders. > > Thanks,guenther. That was about as quick and painless as it gets! > > -- > Jeff > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:48:45 -0700 > From: Michael Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Evolution] filters.xml > > Now that evolution appears to have the ability to pipe messages to > scripts, I'm thinking of shutting down procmail and letting evolution do > all my filtering. The problem is that I've got a LOT of filter rules > defined in procmail. It looks like I'm in for a lot of mouse clicking. > > One of the things that could help would be to edit the filters.xml file > directly. Is it safe to do this, or would it screw up evolution? > > Regards, > Michael > -- > Michael Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Keeping Size of Mail Windows > From: Michael Vanderford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Rick Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 02 Jul 2003 18:52:43 -0500 > > 1. Submit a bug for Evolution... It may already exist? 2. You can always > change the code... easier said than done! > > On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 06:44, Rick Friedman wrote: > > Is it possible to get Evolution to retain the size of email windows from > > session to session? > > > > After starting up Evolution, when I select an email to read, the window > > that opens (containing the message text) is a bit too small for my > > taste. So, I resize the window to make it a bit larger. For the rest of > > that session, the window size is then fine for all the mail that I open. > > > > However, after I shut down Evolution, when I start it up again, I find > > that the email window size has reverted to the smaller size. I am unable > > to find some way to get Evolution to retain the window size that I set. > > Is it possible? > > > > BTW, I'm running Evolution 1.3.92 on SuSE 8.2. > > > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading Multiple Messages > From: Ralph Sanford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: > Date: 02 Jul 2003 21:59:22 -0600 > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:18, Andrew wrote: > > Hi, I'm using Evolution 1.4.0 and am a bit disappointed. I recently > > switched over from MS Outlook, so I have little to complain about, but > > the mail reading is much less smooth. I don't use the preview pane, so > > I double-click on the first new message. Then, in Outlook, whatever I > > do to that message--whether delete it or move it somewhere--the next > > message automatically opens in that window. There are also Next and > > Prev buttons. Evolution doesn't have any of that; the mail window you > > open is for that message only, making reading multiple messages much > > more difficult. > > > > Any option to change that, or plans for implementing that in the future? > > > > Also, why is it so bloody impossible to copy and paste from within said > > message windows?! > > > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > > > I have filed a bug #44476 regarding the inability to read the next > message smoothly after deleting the first message. The response was > that this was not a bug. The ability to smoothly read multiple messages > may be re-integrated into a future version of evolution, such as 1.6. > > The suggested workaround from ximian was to use the preview screen to > read messages. My workaround is to use evolution 1.2.4 and ignore 1.4. > Or perhaps you could write a bug report that will get an earlier > response from ximian. > > -- > Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? > > DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading Multiple Messages > From: Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: > Date: 02 Jul 2003 21:33:32 -0700 > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 20:59, Ralph Sanford wrote: > > > I have filed a bug #44476 regarding the inability to read the next > > message smoothly after deleting the first message. The response was > > that this was not a bug. The ability to smoothly read multiple messages > > may be re-integrated into a future version of evolution, such as 1.6. > > > > The suggested workaround from ximian was to use the preview screen to > > read messages. My workaround is to use evolution 1.2.4 and ignore 1.4. > > Or perhaps you could write a bug report that will get an earlier > > response from ximian. > > Earlier today guenther suggested to me that I set up a virtual folder > for all unread messages. I found this to work smoothly, as long as I > remember to cull the spam from my inbox. (Everything else gets sorted > into its own folders first). While I'm still using evo-1.2.2, this > might still work on 1.4. Have you tried this approach? > > Regards, > -- > > --Jeff > > Jeff Trefftzs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.tcsn.net/trefftzs Home Page > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php?artist=68 Gimp Gallery > http://trefftzs.topcities.com/ Photo Gallery > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading Multiple Messages > From: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 03 Jul 2003 13:29:37 +0800 > > In case of evolution 1.4.0, I found an interesting thing. > I created a vfolder "unread" with condition "status"+"is not"+"read". > Well, it works -- gether all the unread messages. > But after I read them, they're still there. If I restart evolution, the > "unread" vfolder will be empty. That's what I want. > > Suppose a message should be removed after reading it. Make sense? > > Is it a bug or feature? > > Calvin > > On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 12:33, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 20:59, Ralph Sanford wrote: > > > > > I have filed a bug #44476 regarding the inability to read the next > > > message smoothly after deleting the first message. The response was > > > that this was not a bug. The ability to smoothly read multiple messages > > > may be re-integrated into a future version of evolution, such as 1.6. > > > > > > The suggested workaround from ximian was to use the preview screen to > > > read messages. My workaround is to use evolution 1.2.4 and ignore 1.4. > > > Or perhaps you could write a bug report that will get an earlier > > > response from ximian. > > > > Earlier today guenther suggested to me that I set up a virtual folder > > for all unread messages. I found this to work smoothly, as long as I > > remember to cull the spam from my inbox. (Everything else gets sorted > > into its own folders first). While I'm still using evo-1.2.2, this > > might still work on 1.4. Have you tried this approach? > > > > Regards, > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases > From: Frank Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: > Date: 03 Jul 2003 09:16:11 +0200 > > Am Mit, 2003-07-02 um 23.28 schrieb Mark Gordon: > > A stack trace from the evolution-mail component might be useful. See > > instructions at http://support.ximian.com/q?65 > > I did it. > > Thread 1 (Thread 1024 (LWP 4571)): > #0 0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #1 0x40e1ef19 in g_main_is_running () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 > #2 0x40e1e8cd in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 > #3 0x40e1ec7c in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 > #4 0x40d3f7e7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 > #5 0x40289ebd in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo.so.2 > #6 0x08090e3a in main () > #7 0x40f3e14f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #0 0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6 > > I hope it helps you to help me. > > Thank you to take the trouble. > > > > > I suspect gnome-vfs is the problem, just in terms of what's triggering > > the crashes. > > Maybe I should delete and reinstall libgnome-vfs-common? > > Regards > > Frank > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] filters.xml > From: Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Michael Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution User Mailing-List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 03 Jul 2003 10:42:16 +0200 > > Le jeu 03/07/2003 =E0 01:48, Michael Rensing a =E9crit : > > Now that evolution appears to have the ability to pipe messages to > > scripts, I'm thinking of shutting down procmail and letting evolution do > > all my filtering. The problem is that I've got a LOT of filter rules > > defined in procmail. It looks like I'm in for a lot of mouse clicking. > >=20 > > One of the things that could help would be to edit the filters.xml file > > directly. Is it safe to do this, or would it screw up evolution? > > I've already done that, it works well. I didn't even need to restart > Evo, the changes applied instantly. > > Xav > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases > From: Frank Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: > Date: 03 Jul 2003 11:31:11 +0200 > > Am Mit, 2003-07-02 um 23.28 schrieb Mark Gordon: > > > I suspect gnome-vfs is the problem, just in terms of what's triggering > > the crashes. > > Today I uninstalled gnome-vfs together with Evolution. Then I > reinstalled Evolution 1.0 and upgraded to Evolution 1.2.4. > > Both in Evolution 1.0 and 1.2.4 the problems still remain 8-( > > I still hope that someone can help me. > > Many thanx > > > > Frank Becker > > -- > > Blumenaeckerweg 8a * 34128 Kassel > > Telefon: 0561/17064 > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web: www.beckerwelt.de > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: Nigel Metheringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: InTechnology plc > Date: 03 Jul 2003 10:38:55 +0100 > Subject: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits > > Is anyone else using Evolution 1.4 with connector and a palm PDA? > > I'm finding that the evolution conduits are causing massive duplication > of any touched item in a way that does not happen against standard evo > contacts/calendar/todo list. > > In particular any item deleted from either palm or exchange does not get > deleted from the other side on sync, and if an appointment (for example) > is modified on either side you end up with both the original and > modified version after sync. > > Nigel. > -- > [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > End of evolution Digest _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
