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>    1. Re: Reading Multiple Messages (Jason Tackaberry)
>    2. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Not Zed)
>    3. Re: filters.xml (Not Zed)
>    4. Re: How to sort by label? (Not Zed)
>    5. Re: Date header bug? (Not Zed)
>    6. Re: How to sort by label? (Mark R. Bowyer)
>    7. RE: getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks hpoj
(=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Nozderko?=)
>    8. Re: Small, but odd thing... (Not Zed)
>    9. Re: Printing Problem (Not Zed)
>   10. GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING (Tig Kerkman)
>   11. Problem with Inbox (Michael J. Rensing)
>   12. Re: filters.xml (Michael J. Rensing)
>   13. Re: Problem with Inbox (guenther)
>   14. Calendar server ? (Michael Agbaglo)
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> Message: 1
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reading Multiple Messages
> From: Jason Tackaberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Yu-Hui Calvin Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 07:40:14 -0400
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> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 01:29, Yu-Hui Calvin Liu wrote:
> > But after I read them, they're still there. If I restart evolution, the
> > "unread" vfolder will be empty. That's what I want.
>
> If you expunge a vFolder (Actions | Expunge, or CTRL-E), it will cause
> all messages that no longer match the vFolders rules to go away.  No
> need to restart.
>
> Cheers,
> Jason.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Frank Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:39:48 +0930
>
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 16:46, Frank Becker wrote:
> > Am Mit, 2003-07-02 um 23.28 schrieb Mark Gordon:
> > > A stack trace from the evolution-mail component might be useful.  See
> > > instructions at http://support.ximian.com/q?65
> >
> > I did it.
>
> > Thread 1 (Thread 1024 (LWP 4571)):
> > #0  0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x40e1ef19 in g_main_is_running () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #2  0x40e1e8cd in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #3  0x40e1ec7c in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #4  0x40d3f7e7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0
> > #5  0x40289ebd in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo.so.2
> > #6  0x08090e3a in main ()
> > #7  0x40f3e14f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #0  0x40fedbb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
>
> There should be more threads than that?
>
> With version 1.2.x you need to run gdb on 'evolution-mail', and use
> 'thread apply all bt' to get the backtrace.
>
> FWIW installing the same version of gnomevfs might not help, if that is
> the problem, perhaps an older version could be tried?
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] filters.xml
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Michael Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Evolution User Mailing-List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:46:00 +0930
>
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:12, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > Le jeu 03/07/2003 � 01:48, Michael Rensing a �crit :
> > > Now that evolution appears to have the ability to pipe messages to
> > > scripts, I'm thinking of shutting down procmail and letting evolution
do
> > > all my filtering. The problem is that I've got a LOT of filter rules
> > > defined in procmail. It looks like I'm in for a lot of mouse clicking.
> > >
> > > One of the things that could help would be to edit the filters.xml
file
> > > directly. Is it safe to do this, or would it screw up evolution?
> >
> > I've already done that, it works well. I didn't even need to restart
> > Evo, the changes applied instantly.
>
> Nod, they're read every time filtering occurs.
>
> Be careful not to break the xml file in any way though, although i guess
> at worst it will just not filter at all.
>
> I'm impressed (well, surprised) evolution's filtering stuff would
> adequately replace procmail, tho i guess it depends on the case.
>
> Also note that evo can't yet use a script as a filter (i.e. the script
> can't alter the message), only as a test.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mark R. Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Arthur S. Alexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 22:55:18 +0930
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 20:29, Mark R. Bowyer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 07:47, Arthur S. Alexion wrote:
> > > ...  Vfolders -- IMO Evolution's best unique feature -- work much
> > > better for me in a situation where I want to easily group labels or
> > > other characteristics.  ...
> >
> > Sorry to be pedantic, but this isn't a feature unique to or new in Evo.
> > It first appeared, to my knowledge, in CDE's "DtMail" application, there
> > called "Views".  I'm addicted to them to help me sort through my email
> > in the morning, so I can deal with important customer emails quickly
> > first, and then read through all mail to different email alias topics
> > later, in little groups.
>
> Just dont let marketing hear you say it :)
>
> Someone told me about something called Rome, i think, from memory(?),
> some Solaris product, years ago, which also had views.
>
>
> > It was the fact that Evo had vfolders, so I could migrate my Views rules
> > over and still use that functionality, that sold me on Evolution over
> > all the other mail clients available to me under Gnome. =O)
>
> Good to hear it proved adequate in that regard.
>
>
> As to the original question, no, unfortunately you can't sort on label,
> you can only sort on things which can be set as columns in the view.
> Its something we should probably remember to add for 1.6.
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Date header bug?
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mike Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:03:21 +0930
>
>
> It works in 1.2.2 here fine too.
>
> Is this from a message on an imap server?  We might get the date by a
> different mechanism that relies on the server parsing it, for the
> message list view.
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:59, Mike Dougherty wrote:
> > I did a quick search in Bugzilla and didn't see anything that pertains
> > to this. I'm not sure if it's a bug in Evolution or not.
> >
> > It seems that the date column in Evolution's mail view (not really
> > sure what the name of this is) does display the date in certain
> > circumstances. At the moment the only difference I can identify is the
> > format of the date. When formatted as "Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:23:46 -0700"
> > it appears as "10:23 AM", which is expected. However, when formatted
> > as "01 Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700" it appears as a "?". I did a quick
> > check with Mutt and it sees that date just fine so I would assume "01
> > Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700" is a valid date format.
> >
> > Advice?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to sort by label?
> From: "Mark R. Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Mark R. Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Arthur S. Alexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 14:25, Not Zed wrote:
> > Just dont let marketing hear you say it :)
>
> Don't worry - I don't talk to Marketing ;O)
>
> > Someone told me about something called Rome, i think, from memory(?),
> > some Solaris product, years ago, which also had views.
>
> That would have been "Roam", which as the name suggests, was intended
> for Sun's road warriors to use for low-bandwidth email access, I think.=20
> I've never used it, but heard that too =3DO)
>
> Ta,
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> Message: 7
> Subject: RE: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing gnome breaks
hpoj
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:49:25 +0200
> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Nozderko?=
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> To: "Evolution List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I wish I knew it before... OK, is there an easy way=20
> to downgrade from 1.4 to 1.2.4 using Red Carpet ?
>
> Regards,
> Jarek
>
> Jaroslaw Nozderko
> GSM +48 601131870 / Kapsch (22) 6075013
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> IT/CCBS/RS - Analyst Programmer
> =20
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:51 AM
> > To: Zot O'Connor
> > Cc: Evolution List
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] getting 1.4.X on RH 7.3, removing=20
> > gnome breaks
> > hpoj
> >=20
> >=20
> > Updating to Evolution 1.4 on Red Hat Linux 7.3 without concurrently
> > updating to XD2 is not currently recommended.  It requires enough
> > changes to GNOME, for example, that unless one is running KDE to start
> > with, it's likely to break things.  This might get resolved at some
> > point, but for now, my advice is to either stick with Evolution 1.2.4,
> > or upgrade to XD2, or upgrade to Red Hat Linux 8.0 (for which the
> > Evolution-only install is much more feasible).
> >=20
> > Red Carpet can take a lot of time trying to resolve especially
> > complicated dependency situations.  It could probably be more=20
> > efficient,
> > but I suspect it just took that long to come up with an advised course
> > of action.
> >=20
> > -Mark Gordon
> >=20
> > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 18:36, Zot O'Connor wrote:
> > > red-carpet has a few errors lately.
> > >=20
> > > It fails on finding a directory for evo 1.2, and connector=20
> > 1.2.  How do
> > > I tell it to stop looking?
> > >=20
> > > More important is when I try to get evo 1.4 I get:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >         gdm     1:2.2.5.4-1.ximian.25   3.08 MB=20
> > >            depends on: gnome-core
> > >         gnome-core-devel        1:1.4.1-1.ximian.4      3.94 MB=20
> > >            depends on: gnome-core
> > >         hpoj    0.90-1  1.10 MB=20
> > >         hpoj-devel      0.90-1  46 KB  =20
> > >            depends on: hpoj
> > >         libglade2-devel 1.99.9-2        312 KB =20
> > >            conflicts with: libglade2
> > >         libsane-hpoj    0.90-1  136 KB =20
> > >            depends on: hpoj
> > >         xojpanel        0.90-1  88 KB  =20
> > >            depends on: hpoj          =20
> > >=20
> > > This is a RH 7.3 box.  I need hpoj for my printing. =20
> > Archives/Google do
> > > not show any one else noticing this, and red-carpet does=20
> > not say why it
> > > is being removed.
> > >=20
> > > It also loads
> > > cups 1:1.1.14-15.4 4.07 MB --=09
> > >      needed by: libgnomecups=09
> > > =09
> > > which I do not really want since I run lpr-ng successfully.
> > >=20
> > > libgnomecups 0.1.4-0.ximian.4.2 31 KB --=09
> > >      needed by: libgnomeprint22=09
> > >=20
> > > libgnomeprint22 2.3.0.cvs.9-0.ximian.4.2 255 KB --=09
> > >      needed by: evolution =09
> > > =09
> > > seems to be where this is coming from.
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Also red-carpet seems to be taking up 10 minutes and all=20
> > the CPU and all
> > > the memory while determining dependicies.  Is this due to=20
> > gnome2?  Is it
> > > looping?
> > >=20
> > > Thanks.
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Zot O'Connor
> > >=20
> > > http://www.ZotConsulting.com
> > > http://www.WhiteKnightHackers.com
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> >=20
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> Message: 8
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Small, but odd thing...
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mike Kestner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Eric Lambart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:21:14 +0930
>
> On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 13:47, Mike Kestner wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:55, Eric Lambart wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 15:47, Cliff Wells wrote:
> > > > I notice that when I resize the headers on the message list pane, it
> > > > hits my hard drive constantly (my drive is a little noisy during
i/o).
> > > > Sort of eerie.
> > >
> > > This is an old, known bug dating back to even before the 1.0 release,
I
> > > believe.  It's in bugzilla, but I think it's been forgotten about.
> >
> > Not forgotten about, as my response to another person who reported this
> > to the list in the last couple weeks will attest.  It's just way, way,
> > way down on the "bugfixes that would make an big impact" list.
> >
> > If anyone is looking for a nice little evo (gal really) hacking project,
> > I'd be happy to point them in the right direction, though.  Maybe
> > rodrigo could put this one on the gnome-es bug day roster?
>
> can't you just drop it in a timeout handler?  500ms should be about
> right ...
>
> > http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40482
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
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>
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> Message: 9
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Printing Problem
> From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: dennis tuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Ximian Evolution Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization:
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 23:30:29 +0930
>
>
> We use gnome libraries, so the first place to look would probably be
> other gnome applications that print using the same libraries.  e.g.
> openoffice.org.
>
> Another thing you could try is printing to a postscript file and dumping
> that to the printer.
>
> On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 02:34, dennis tuchler wrote:
> > This concerns printing from e-mail caught by Evolution 1.4, operating
> > under SuSE 8.2.  The printer is a Lexmark Optra E310.  The printer
> > connection is through CUPS.
> >
> > When I right click on a piece of e-mail and select "print", I get an
> > error light on the printer.  When I copy the contents of the message to
> > Kwrite abd print from there, no problem.
> >
> > I am sure that there is a setting I am missing.  Would someone help me?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > dj tuchler
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
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>
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> Message: 10
> From: Tig Kerkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Evolution Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: City of Kenosha
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 10:21:16 -0500
> Subject: [Evolution] GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING
>
> Evolution 1.4 on Redhat 8.0.
>
> I have upgraded to Evolution 1.4 from 1.2 via red-carpet.  Everything is
> working except that I cannot print.  The error I get at the command line
> is:
>
> (evolution:4702): GnomePrintCupsPlugin-WARNING **: The CUPS printer
> trn1n could not be created
>
>
>
> Then I get a Segmentation fault and evolution crashes.
>
> I can print from other applications, and from the command line.
>
> HELP.....
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:35:44 -0700
> From: "Michael J. Rensing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox
>
> Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting my Inbox to work the way I think
> it should. I'm receiving my mail using fetchmail which puts it into the
> standard /var/spool/mail/michael file.
>
> I've configured an account in Evo with server type "Local Delivery",
> which points to /var/spool/mail/michael. However, nothing ever shows up
> in the Inbox.
>
> If I configure an account with server type "Standard Unix mbox spool or
> directory", Evo sees the mail in that Inbox. Problem is that it adds to
> the clutter to have a separate account for this when I thought that the
> standard Inbox should handle this.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Why can't I see any mail in
> the Evolution Local Folders -> Inbox?
>
> Regards,
> Michael
> --
> Michael J. Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:47:11 -0700
> From: "Michael J. Rensing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] filters.xml
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 06:16, Not Zed wrote:
>
> > I'm impressed (well, surprised) evolution's filtering stuff would
> > adequately replace procmail, tho i guess it depends on the case.
>
> Well, I'm not sure that it's adequate yet. I'm testing with a small
> subset of my procmail filters, and it does seem to be rather slow.
>
> I'm trying to find a way to have mail notification (or at least have the
> new message count and bold font appear) whenever new messages appear in
> a number of mailboxes. Evo doesn't update automatically for local
> folders, and I keep having to manually check five or so different boxes
> for new mail.
>
> > Also note that evo can't yet use a script as a filter (i.e. the script
> > can't alter the message), only as a test.
>
> Already noted. This is a shortcoming, but not really for me. Luckily the
> scripts I'm using can all do their job by checking the return code.
>
> If altering the message were necessary, I guess one could get really
> sneaky and have the script do the alteration and re-submit the message
> to the mail spool and dump the unaltered version in /dev/null. The
> filter system could be set up to recognize the modified message second
> time around and deal with it appropriately.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> --
> Michael J. Rensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Michael J. Rensing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 03 Jul 2003 17:50:18 +0200
>
>
> > Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting my Inbox to work the way I think
> > it should. I'm receiving my mail using fetchmail which puts it into the
> > standard /var/spool/mail/michael file.
> [...]
>
> > Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Why can't I see any mail in
> > the Evolution Local Folders -> Inbox?
>
>
> This is a known issue and will be fixed in 1.4.1 (well, 1.4.2), which
> will be released soon.
>
> See bugzilla for more and a workaround:
>  http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43974
>
> ...guenther
>
>
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>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:10:57 +0200
> From: Michael Agbaglo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Evolution] Calendar server ?
>
> Hi !
>
> I'd like to sync my calendar among serveral machines. I heard that
> 'wombat' is responsible for calendar and contact management. Where do I
> find detailed information on it ? I there a non-proprietary solution too
> ? ( I'm using LDAP for my contacts ...)
>
> M.
>
>
>
>
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