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>    1. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Nigel Metheringham)
>    2. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Frank Becker)
>    3. [Fwd: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or News for non-root]
(John Francis Lee)
>    4. Re: Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits (Thomas Maeder)
>    5. Re: Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases (Jeffrey Stedfast)
>    6. Re: [Fwd: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or News
>        for non-root] (Jeffrey Stedfast)
>    7. Tip: Using vfolders for boolean searches (Thomas Frayne)
>    8. Accented chars disappearing? (Ted Anderson)
>    9. expressions in filters (Patrick Morand)
>   10. upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go (Sean R. Kirkpatrick)
>   11. Re: expressions in filters (Scott Bronson)
>   12. Re: Accented chars disappearing? (Scott Bronson)
>   13. not quoting when replying to message... (Grant Bierman)
>   14. Any way to get compose to just offer a text dialog? (Scott Bronson)
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> Message: 1
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
> From: Nigel Metheringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Thomas Maeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: InTechnology plc
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 09:09:17 +0100
>
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:40, Thomas Maeder wrote:
> > Am Don, 2003-07-03 um 11.38 schrieb Nigel Metheringham:
> > > Is anyone else using Evolution 1.4 with connector and a palm PDA?
>
> > Personally, I am just using Evolution 1.4 with a Palm PDA (no
> > connector).
> >
> > > I'm finding that the evolution conduits are causing massive
duplication
> > > of any touched item in a way that does not happen against standard evo
> > > contacts/calendar/todo list.
> >
> > Same thing here; it seems not to be a Connector issue.
>
> Syncing to contacts/calendar/todo in local evolution folders does work
> fine - its possible to force minor duplication but you have to try quite
> hard to do that and its not a normal way of life the way it is when
> syncing against exchange folders.
>
> Nigel.
> --
> [ Nigel Metheringham           [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ]
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> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
> From: Frank Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization:
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 10:57:53 +0200
>
> Am Fre, 2003-07-04 um 10.09 schrieb Nigel Metheringham:
>
> > Syncing to contacts/calendar/todo in local evolution folders does work
> > fine - its possible to force minor duplication but you have to try quite
> > hard to do that and its not a normal way of life the way it is when
> > syncing against exchange folders.
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> do you have any hints how to sync the Palm-Memo with Evolution? IMO
> Evolution has no memopad.
>
> --
> Frank Becker
> --
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> Message: 3
> From: John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 21:38:11 +0700
> Subject: [Evolution] [Fwd: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or News
for non-root]
>
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> --
> John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Weather or News for non-root
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> Subject: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or News for non-root
> From: John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 17:56:05 +0700
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>
> Hello again,
>
> My keyboard works again! After the upgrade from 1.2 to 1.4 the enter and
> backspace keys, at least, lost their functions.
>
> I rebooted the machine to fix it. Gnome/Ximian is emulating the windows
> environment perhaps too well? :)
>
> Now I notice the summary page is unable to download data for Weather and
> News when I'm logged in as a regular user.
>
> When logged in as root the downloads work fine.
>
> Where would permissions come into play with these communications?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> --
> John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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> Message: 4
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution, Connector and pilot conduits
> From: Thomas Maeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 17:57:22 +0200
>
> Am Fre, 2003-07-04 um 10.09 schrieb Nigel Metheringham:
>
> > Syncing to contacts/calendar/todo in local evolution folders does work
> > fine - its possible to force minor duplication but you have to try quite
> > hard to do that and its not a normal way of life the way it is when
> > syncing against exchange folders.
>
> I am not synching against Exchange - in fact, I don't think that any
> Microsoft Internet tool is good enough to be used.
>
> I am simply synching PDA and Evolution, and I am seeing massive
> duplication.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2.4 crashes in different cases
> From: Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Frank Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:29:29 -0400
>
> hmm, nothing in the bt is of any use :\
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 02:11, Frank Becker wrote:
> > Am Don, 2003-07-03 um 15.09 schrieb Not Zed:
> >
> > > With version 1.2.x you need to run gdb on 'evolution-mail', and use
> > > 'thread apply all bt' to get the backtrace.
> >
> > Hope that this threadlist gives you more information. Sometimes
> > evolution already crashes if gdb loads the symbol table.
> >
> >
> > Thread 7 (Thread 5126 (LWP 1496)):
> > #0  0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
> > /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #3  0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #4  0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #5  0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> >
> > Thread 6 (Thread 4101 (LWP 1495)):
> > #0  0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
> > /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #3  0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #4  0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #5  0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> >
> > Thread 5 (Thread 3076 (LWP 1486)):
> > #0  0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
> > /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #3  0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #4  0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #5  0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> >
> > Thread 4 (Thread 2051 (LWP 1483)):
> > #0  0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
> > /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #3  0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #4  0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #5  0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> >
> > Thread 3 (Thread 1026 (LWP 1482)):
> > #0  0x4113587e in sigsuspend () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x4039c879 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal () from
> > /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x40399102 in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > #3  0x40235a5a in e_msgport_wait () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #4  0x402361bd in e_thread_busy () from
> > /usr/lib/evolution/1.2/libeutil.so.0
> > #5  0x4039a0ba in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > Thread 2 (Thread 2049 (LWP 1481)):
> > #0  0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x40399d96 in __pthread_manager () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> >
> > Thread 1 (Thread 1024 (LWP 1428)):
> > #0  0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x41005f19 in g_main_is_running () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #2  0x410058cd in g_get_current_time () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #3  0x41005c7c in g_main_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0
> > #4  0x40f267e7 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0
> > #5  0x40471ebd in bonobo_main () from /usr/lib/libbonobo.so.2
> > #6  0x080afb04 in main ()
> > #7  0x4112514f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > #0  0x411d4bb0 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
> --
> Jeffrey Stedfast
> Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.ximian.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or
News
> for non-root]
> From: Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:33:31 -0400
>
> On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:38, John Francis Lee wrote:
> > --
> > John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > From: John Francis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: My keyboard works, but no My Weather or News for non-root
> > Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 17:56:05 +0700
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > My keyboard works again! After the upgrade from 1.2 to 1.4 the enter and
> > backspace keys, at least, lost their functions.
>
> I honestly don't see how this could be pinned on Evolution. Sounds more
> like a bug in X or something, or a misconfiguration of your X.
>
> >
> > I rebooted the machine to fix it. Gnome/Ximian is emulating the windows
> > environment perhaps too well? :)
> >
> > Now I notice the summary page is unable to download data for Weather and
> > News when I'm logged in as a regular user.
>
> you might need to set your GNOME proxy setting?
>
> >
> > When logged in as root the downloads work fine.
> >
> > Where would permissions come into play with these communications?
>
> they wouldn't, afaik.
>
> Jeff
>
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> --
> Jeffrey Stedfast
> Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.ximian.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Thomas Frayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization:
> Date: 04 Jul 2003 11:42:54 -0700
> Subject: [Evolution] Tip: Using vfolders for boolean searches
>
> Periodically Evolution gets requests for boolean searches and boolean
> criteria for filters and vfolders.  These requests have always been
> rejected on the grounds that the user "can" use the undocumented (by
> Evolution; Scheme documentation is available, but has no hints how to
> use Scheme expressions in Evolution) Expression criteria.
>
> I have just noticed a way to bypass this problem, but it would still be
> much more convenient to have boolean searches and criteria implemented
> directly by Evolution.
>
> The idea is to use the ability to base a vfolder on another vfolder.
>
> I set up a vfolder, "recent, important, unread" to use any of the
> criteria:
>   Received date after 2 days ago,
>   Sent date after 1 day ago,
>   Status is important,
>   Status is not read.
> I based the vfolder on all local folders plus Inbox and Sent.
>
> Then I set up a second vfolder, "Alice recent, important, unread", based
> on "recent, important, unread" to filter out all the messages my wife is
> not interested in, by using all of the criteria:
>   Recipients does not contain linux
>   Subject does not contain hylafax
>   Sender does not contain redhat
>   etc.
>
>
> Evolution could simplify this procedure markedly, e.g., by adding an
> "And" button at the bottom of the vfolder edit box.  When this button is
> clicked, expand the box with another
> Add-criterion-Execute-actions-vFolder-sources section.  The first
> section could be executed if any criteria are met, and the second
> section, if all criteria are met.
>
> If this enhancement were implemented, I could set up a single vFolder to
> select all recent, important, or unread messages which my wife wants to
> see, without using an auxiliary vFolder.
>
> The documentation could be improved by referencing the Scheme
> documentation and providing a few examples of Scheme expressions, with
> descriptions of what they do, in the Evolution documents.  A reference
> and a few examples of regular expressions in filters would also be
> appreciated; they don't seem to work as I expected.  Finally,
> implementing regular expressions in the vFolder editor would be useful.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: Ted Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 05 Jul 2003 12:36:41 +0200
> Subject: [Evolution] Accented chars disappearing?
>
> The other day I received 2 emails in Spanish. One was in HTML and the
> characters looked normal: compañeros, prometí, etc. The other was in
> plain text and instead of special characters there was nothing: xito,
> confirmacin, etc. In fact, when I view email source on the HTML message,
> the words appear like compaeros and promet. I can forward these to my
> wife's M$ box and they both look fine in Outlook.
>
> At first I thought my GNOME plain text font (Monospace) might not be
> able to display accented chars, but here I am in Monospace (íáñ) and it
> seems to be working. Is there some other way I can see these messages
> correctly?
>
> Ted
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: Patrick Morand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 05 Jul 2003 16:11:15 +0200
> Subject: [Evolution] expressions in filters
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm using evolution 1.0.5 on debian/woody and trying to implement
> filters against spam.
>
> Everything's OK when using filters on subject.
>
> I want to filter all messages having "unknown" in the "Received:"
> specific header.
>
> I can't use the "specific header" option because this header is repeated
> many times and "specific header" looks only in the first occurence.
>
> So i'm trying tu use the "expression" option
>
> When i put something like ^Received:.*unknown.* in the expression's
> value, i obtain an error dialog while filtering.
>
> This dialog says : "unexpected token encountered ..."
>
> If somebody can help
>
>
> Thank's
> --
> Patrick Morand
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Sean R. Kirkpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 05 Jul 2003 09:36:08 -0700
> Subject: [Evolution] upgrade to 1.4: where'd my mail go
>
> I just upgraded to evo 1.4 via red-carpet and *all* of my filed mail
> disappeared. Drilling down into the evolution/mail directory I see that
> it's all still there, but I can't see it in the folders in evo. What
> happened?
>
>   Sean
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expressions in filters
> From: Scott Bronson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Patrick Morand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: Rinspin!
> Date: 05 Jul 2003 17:32:11 -0700
>
> You REALLY don't want to filter on received headers.  There's
> effectively no standard as to what these things contain.
>
> i.e., the following would be perfectly legal:
>
> Received: from important.fcc.gov (important) by localhost.dom.com
>      (Postfix) with unknown ESMTP ID for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Have you thought about using Spamassassin?  It's actually quite
> effective, and would probably be easier than setting up and
> tunin your own filters.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 07:11, Patrick Morand wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm using evolution 1.0.5 on debian/woody and trying to implement
> > filters against spam.
> >
> > Everything's OK when using filters on subject.
> >
> > I want to filter all messages having "unknown" in the "Received:"
> > specific header.
> >
> > I can't use the "specific header" option because this header is repeated
> > many times and "specific header" looks only in the first occurence.
> >
> > So i'm trying tu use the "expression" option
> >
> > When i put something like ^Received:.*unknown.* in the expression's
> > value, i obtain an error dialog while filtering.
> >
> > This dialog says : "unexpected token encountered ..."
> >
> > If somebody can help
> >
> >
> > Thank's
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Accented chars disappearing?
> From: Scott Bronson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ted Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: Rinspin!
> Date: 05 Jul 2003 17:37:00 -0700
>
> I kind of like this feature.  All of the member-enlargement SPAM
> that I get (about 10 a day) are asking me if I want bigger and
> harder pens.  :)
>
> (they are, of course, putting an � in the word to try to evade SPAM
> filters)
>
> But, I agree, it should be fixed.
>
>     - Scott
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 03:36, Ted Anderson wrote:
> > The other day I received 2 emails in Spanish. One was in HTML and the
> > characters looked normal: compa�eros, promet�, etc. The other was in
> > plain text and instead of special characters there was nothing: xito,
> > confirmacin, etc. In fact, when I view email source on the HTML message,
> > the words appear like compaeros and promet. I can forward these to my
> > wife's M$ box and they both look fine in Outlook.
> >
> > At first I thought my GNOME plain text font (Monospace) might not be
> > able to display accented chars, but here I am in Monospace (���) and it
> > seems to be working. Is there some other way I can see these messages
> > correctly?
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: Grant Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 06 Jul 2003 15:57:34 -0500
> Subject: [Evolution] not quoting when replying to message...
>
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> I setup Evolution on my parents debian box some time ago, and until
> recently everything was working fine. Then for some reason evolution
> would not quote a message when they went to reply to it. It didn't
> happen all the time or in all folders, but now it doesn't provide a
> quote at all anymore.
>
> Was using version 1.2, and have now installed version 1.4 from debian
> unstable. I've un-installed/purged, remove settings, re-install, all to
> no avail. Does anyone have any idea or clue on whats going on and how to
> fix it?=20
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> --
> http://gbierman.hypermart.net/ (A+, N+)
>
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>
> Message: 14
> From: Scott Bronson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: Rinspin!
> Date: 06 Jul 2003 15:31:34 -0700
> Subject: [Evolution] Any way to get compose to just offer a text dialog?
>
> Right now, when I try to paste text into the Compose dialog, it gets
> indented, with this weird flashy rectangle around it.  When I try to
> delete a single character the whole thing gets deleted.  Finally, when
> I send the mail, it doesn't look like what I typed in (the indenting
> and whitespacing has all changed).  This happens to the .sig too but
> that's easy to fix: just turn off the .sig.
>
> It's very frustrating!!
>
> Is there any way to get Evo to offer a plain, dumb text input dialog?
> Thanks,
>
>      - Scott
>
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> End of evolution Digest

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