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>    1. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger)
>    2. font preferences don't exist anymore ? (THUaN)
>    3. Re: font preferences don't exist anymore ? (Lonnie Borntreger)
>    4. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
>    5. Re: Evolution Default Browser (Jeffrey Stedfast)
>    6. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
>    7. Re: Duplicates removal (guenther)
>    8. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther)
>    9. Re: How do I keep message list from resorting? (guenther)
>   10. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (guenther)
>   11. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (Ettore Perazzoli)
>   12. Re: Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP (guenther)
>   13. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Itzchak Rehberg)
>   14. Re: Evolution Default Browser (Itzchak Rehberg)
>   15. Can't create calendar item (Stuart Luppescu)
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> Message: 1
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
> From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:46:00 -0500
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 05:32, Itzchak Rehberg wrote:
> > Yes, that would be great - but when I do so, the entire KDE desktop is
> > gone (except the kicker) and replaced by a dark-blue background without
> > any icons on - I suppose this is a part of the Gnome2 desktop. No
> > chance: as soon as I start that gnome-settings-daemon my KDE desktop is
> > gone, and the only way to regain it I found out so far is to log out and
> > in again.
>
> I had the same problem.  Here is how you fix it.
>
> Install (as root) and run (as yourself) gconf-editor.  Go to
> desktop->gnome->background and turn off the option to "draw_background".
>
> Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".
>
> Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
> mouse movement settings.........
>
> Lonnie Borntreger
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: THUaN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Evolution Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 23 Jul 2003 19:02:56 +0200
> Subject: [Evolution] font preferences don't exist anymore ?
>
>
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> hello,
>
> i've checked in the tools>settings to change the fonts used in mails.
> but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.
>
> what do i need to do to perfom this ?
>
> thanks all,
> luna
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> <BODY>
> hello, <BR>
> <BR>
> i've checked in the tools&gt;settings to change the fonts used in mails.
<BR>
> but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.<BR>
> <BR>
> what do i need to do to perfom this ?<BR>
> <BR>
> thanks all,<BR>
> luna
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> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] font preferences don't exist anymore ?
> From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:04:01 -0500
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> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:02, THUaN wrote:
>
> > i've checked in the tools>settings to change the fonts used in mails.
> > but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the evo-1.2.
>
>
> It's now under tools->settings->mail preferences
>
> Lonnie
>
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> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:02, THUaN wrote:
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
>     <FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>i've checked in the tools&gt;settings to
change the fonts used in mails. <BR>
>     but the section disappeared. i used to do it with the
evo-1.2.</I></FONT>
> </BLOCKQUOTE>
> <BR>
> It's now under tools-&gt;settings-&gt;mail preferences<BR>
> <BR>
> Lonnie<BR>
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> Message: 4
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ettore Perazzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:07:16 +0200
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:40, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:25, guenther wrote:
> > > Well, what about at least a button to launch the capplet?
> >
> > Where would the button go exactly?  I'd rather not have the clutter.
> >
> > The main problem, as I see it, is with non-GNOME users...  Maybe in that
> > case we should auto-detect what desktop the user is running under and
> > launch the appropriate browser?
>
> Nope. This would break the setting just as well as the option to set a
> custom browser within Evolution (as I mentioned).
>
> Evolution will not necessarily be the only app that launches URI. Shall
> Evo behave different from other Gnome apps then?
>
>
> A handy solution would simply be, to give the users the option to set
> the default Gnome browser as a shortcut from within Evolution. At least
> that's the place most users are looking for it...
>
>
> > (However, I don't know how hard it is for a GNOME app to figure out e.g.
> > what browser KDE is configured to use.  If we can just launch an
> > executable that Does The Right Thing then it's trivial to do.)
>
> Gnome completely changed the settings between 1.x and 2.x. What, if KDE
> will do the same for 4.x version?
>
>
> Apart from that: IIRC most questions are by Gnome users asking how to
> change that. Thus *no* automatic approach based on the desktop would do
> it -- unless it automagically knows weather to launch Mozilla, Galeaon,
> Opera, Konqueror, lynx, ...
>
>
> Yeah, the freedesktop.org approach would be good -- if they only would
> hurry up...
>
> ...guenther
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:11:06 -0400
> From: Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
>
> it would be too much work for our small development group. in fact, it'd
> probably require a complete rewrite to make a KDE version. Just not
> worth the effort.
>
> of course, that doesn't mean someone couldn't do it in their own spare
> time... (evo is GPL afterall)
>
> Jeff
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> ><Heresy>
> >
> >How about a KDE version?
> >
> ></Heresy>
> >
> >name withheld to protect the innocent
> >
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> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:18:26 +0200
>
>
> > The latter especially applies to those using Evo with KDE3. They a) had
> > to install Gnome2 CC just for some little changes for Evo, and sometimes
> > those changes don't even work (see previous postings from me concerning
> > font problems).
>
> Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)
>
> I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms
> regarding fonts sound very familiar...
>
> ...guenther
>
>
> --
> char
*t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Duplicates removal
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Denis O. Mikhalkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:26:01 +0200
>
>
> > Thoughts:
> > - surely it shouldn't be automatic, manual, with short-cut.
> >
> > - the algorithm should be working that way so it doesn't delete
> > different messages. But if he misses some duplicates it is ok. It might
> > be based on headers I think, no body comparision is needed. If header is
> > changed - ok, we miss some duplicates.
> >
> > - there is already successul implementation used by big number of users,
> > TheBat, which has "Kill Duplicates" action on folder. May be you can
> > just "import" the algorithm from it? It is described in its help system
> > in details. I was using it for a long time and I was satisfied on its
> > success/miss ratio.
>
> Which of the duplicates are to be kept??
>
> For example: The one in my Inbox or the one in my archives?
>
> ...guenther
>
>
> --
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c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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> Message: 8
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:32:34 +0200
>
>
> > How about a KDE version?
>
> A KDE version of *what* wrt the subject?
>
> ...guenther
>
>
> --
> char
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> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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> Message: 9
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How do I keep message list from resorting?
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Evolution list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:36:25 +0200
>
>
> > I looked in
> > ~/evolution/config.xmldb, but I could find anything special about the
> > one folder that still resorts.
>
> As you already have that behavior back again, just a note:
>
> config.xmldb isn't used at all since 1.3.x. It's only still there in
> case of a downgrade.
>
> ...guenther
>
>
> --
> char
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> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ettore Perazzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:29:54 +0200
>
>
> > > This is definitely something I would find useful, if you could put it
on
> > > to the "To Do" list for the next release.
> >
> > For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that it
> > starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect so
> > you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
> > neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
> > cached...
>
> Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.
>
> And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?
>
>
> > This was mentioned either here or on the hackers list (I forget which
> > right now).
>
> Hackers, apparently... ;)
>
> ...guenther
>
>
> --
> char
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> main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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> Message: 11
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
> From: Ettore Perazzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 23 Jul 2003 15:04:33 -0400
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:29, guenther wrote:
> > > For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that it
> > > starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect so
> > > you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
> > > neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
> > > cached...
> >
> > Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.
>
> Actually, Michael mentioned that this is doable with the current IMAP
> implementation.
>
> > And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?
>
> I think we are just skipping 1.6 as a version number.  :-)
>
> I don't know how much of the IMAP stuff we can do for 2.0.  Since it
> seems a sizeable chunk of work and we are resource-limited it sounds
> like the best approach would be to develop this in parallel with 2.0 but
> not make it a blocker for 2.0.
>
> -- Ettore
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Re: working offline / headers only / IMAP
> From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ettore Perazzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:23:23 +0200
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 21:04, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:29, guenther wrote:
> > > > For 2.0 we are should probably change the offline behavior so that
it
> > > > starts caching all the messages in the background when you connect
so
> > > > you have a copy of all messages at all times.  Michael also had some
> > > > neat ideas about providing configurable filters to decide what gets
> > > > cached...
> > >
> > > Sounds like a perfect match for the IMAP rewrite.
> >
> > Actually, Michael mentioned that this is doable with the current IMAP
> > implementation.
>
> yep, right
>
>
> > > And wasn't IMAP rewrite scheduled for 1.6? Or was it delayed again?
> >
> > I think we are just skipping 1.6 as a version number.  :-)
> >
> > I don't know how much of the IMAP stuff we can do for 2.0.  Since it
> > seems a sizeable chunk of work and we are resource-limited it sounds
> > like the best approach would be to develop this in parallel with 2.0 but
> > not make it a blocker for 2.0.
>
> Well, if you would ask me (as if I don't know you won't ask me), finish
> 1.6 ASAP and let 2.0 brew a little bit. And have that IMAP rewrite high
> priority for 1.6 anyway.
>
> <comment type="insider">
>  Seems, I'm feeling argumentative today, too.
> </comment>
>
> ...guenther
>
>
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> (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc.
> From: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 23 Jul 2003 21:44:04 +0200
>
> > > Yes, that would be great - but when I do so, the entire KDE desktop is
> > > gone (except the kicker) and replaced by a dark-blue background
without
> > > any icons on - I suppose this is a part of the Gnome2 desktop. No
> > > chance: as soon as I start that gnome-settings-daemon my KDE desktop
is
> > > gone, and the only way to regain it I found out so far is to log out
and
> > > in again.
> > I had the same problem.  Here is how you fix it.
> > Install (as root) and run (as yourself) gconf-editor.  Go to
> > desktop->gnome->background and turn off the option to "draw_background".
>
> Thanx - found an un-checked.
>
> > Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop".
>
> No such setting.
>
> Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up?
> There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app
> started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or Gnome
> app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line).
>
> > Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my
> > mouse movement settings.........
>
> Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour...
>
> Izzy.
>
> --
> Itzchak Rehberg
> http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
> http://www.izzysoft.de/
> "We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."
>
>
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>
> Message: 14
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser
> From: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 23 Jul 2003 21:47:22 +0200
>
> > > The latter especially applies to those using Evo with KDE3. They a)
had
> > > to install Gnome2 CC just for some little changes for Evo, and
sometimes
> > > those changes don't even work (see previous postings from me
concerning
> > > font problems).
> > Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;)
>
> Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly
> check it!
>
> > I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms
> > regarding fonts sound very familiar...
>
> So do you know what he did to solve it? That would be *VERY* helpful to
> me!!
>
> Thankx in advance
> Izzy
>
> --
> Itzchak Rehberg
> http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/
> http://www.izzysoft.de/
> "We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..."
>
>
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>
> Message: 15
> From: Stuart Luppescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Evolution list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: University of Chicago
> Date: 23 Jul 2003 14:56:20 -0500
> Subject: [Evolution] Can't create calendar item
>
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> Every time I try to save a new calendar entry I get this message:
> Validation error: End time is wrong
>
> I don't see anything wrong with the end time. It even happens when I use
> the default start and end times (9:00 and 9:30). Can anyone tell me
> what's going on?=20
> --=20
> Stuart Luppescu -=3D- s-luppescu .at. uchicago.edu       =20
> University of Chicago -=3D- CCSR=20
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> You are an insult to my intelligence!  I demand
>  that you log off immediately.=20
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