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Re: "we were unable to open this addressbook" with 1.4 (Chris Toshok) > 9. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Itzchak Rehberg) > 10. Re: Evolution Default Browser (guenther) > 11. Re: Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. (Lonnie Borntreger) > 12. Re: Starting evolution-1.4 problem (Mark Gordon) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser > From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:06:37 +0200 > > > > > Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;) > > > > Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly > > check it! > > I told you, what the culprit likely is. I told you, how to set thze DPI > value in Gnome. I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE > on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE. > > What do you need? > > > > > I *know* that was the issue for a friend of my -- and your symptoms > > > regarding fonts sound very familiar... > > > > So do you know what he did to solve it? That would be *VERY* helpful to > > me!! > > Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting *both* > DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different font > sizes for him. > > But I already posted this information, too. > > ...guenther > > > -- > char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; > main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: > (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: Ian Perryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: evolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 23 Jul 2003 16:13:50 -0400 > Subject: [Evolution] Any way to export contacts? > > > --=-6uB/YoPtR4EYm7r/ghKl > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Is there a way to export the contacts list to an .ldif file? Importing > seems to work just fine. > > I am using evolution 1.4.3 on RH8.0. > > Ian > > --=-6uB/YoPtR4EYm7r/ghKl > Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> > <HTML> > <HEAD> > <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> > <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.0.7"> > </HEAD> > <BODY> > Is there a way to export the contacts list to an .ldif file? Importing seems to work just fine. <BR> > <BR> > I am using evolution 1.4.3 on RH8.0. <BR> > <BR> > Ian > </BODY> > </HTML> > > --=-6uB/YoPtR4EYm7r/ghKl-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. > From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:17:54 -0500 > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:44, Itzchak Rehberg wrote: > > > Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop". > > > > No such setting. > > Odd. Don't look into the sub-folders of preferences, it is in that top > folder. > > > Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up? > > There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app > > started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or Gnome > > app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line). > > Nope. After I login, I manually run gnome-font-settings. This allows > you to pick fonts for Gnome apps. It never has to be reset (font > selection that is), but I use it now as a quick and easy way to get the > gnome-settings-daemon to start. > > > > Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my > > > mouse movement settings......... > > > > Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour... > > I've modified my mouse speed in KDE the default X setting is WAY too > slow for me. The gnome-settings-daemon sets it back to "default" > values. So, I have to go into KDE system settings and re-apply my > changes. This only happens to me once per login. Luckily, I hardly > ever logout. I suppose I could try to get the gnome mouse settings to > match, then it wouldn't be an issue. In fact, I think I'll go do that > now...... > > Lonnie > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. > From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:27:27 -0500 > > Oh, you'll want to go to apps->gnome_settings_daemon and uncheck > start_screensaver so it doesn't override your KDE settings. > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 15:17, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:44, Itzchak Rehberg wrote: > > > > Then go to apps->nautilus->preferences and unset "show_desktop". > > > > > > No such setting. > > > > Odd. Don't look into the sub-folders of preferences, it is in that top > > folder. > > > > > Does this also fix the problem with fonts being completely messed up? > > > There was no point on this (as I wrote in another posting: any app > > > started after the gnome-settings-daemon, regardless of KDE app or Gnome > > > app, has the fonts completely "replaced" by a single dot per line). > > > > Nope. After I login, I manually run gnome-font-settings. This allows > > you to pick fonts for Gnome apps. It never has to be reset (font > > selection that is), but I use it now as a quick and easy way to get the > > gnome-settings-daemon to start. > > > > > > Now all I need to figure out is how to stop gnome from hijacking my > > > > mouse movement settings......... > > > > > > Humm - my mouse was not affected by weird behaviour... > > > > I've modified my mouse speed in KDE the default X setting is WAY too > > slow for me. The gnome-settings-daemon sets it back to "default" > > values. So, I have to go into KDE system settings and re-apply my > > changes. This only happens to me once per login. Luckily, I hardly > > ever logout. I suppose I could try to get the gnome mouse settings to > > match, then it wouldn't be an issue. In fact, I think I'll go do that > > now...... > > > > Lonnie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser > From: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:36:23 +0200 > > > > > Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;) > > > Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly > > > check it! > > I told you, what the culprit likely is. > > Yes, you did that. > > > I told you, how to set thze DPI value in Gnome. > > THAT mail did not arrive here - or I missed it. Just checked all mails > from you again, could not find this. > > > I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE > > on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE. > > That was missing, too - but expected :-) I'm pretty sure KDE uses 75 dpi > (I *ever* used that for years now), and AFAIR X11 is set up such, so it > has to be. I just could not figure out how to tell Gnome2, even not with > gconf-edit... > > > Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting *both* > > DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different font > > sizes for him. > > Here the gnome-settings-daemon messes all fonts up completely. But that, > again, may be caused by being confused with different DPI settings. > > > But I already posted this information, too. > > Must have been the same mail as with the location of the DPI settings... > Sorry, but I must have missed it, s.a. > > Thank you for your patience... > Izzy. > > -- > Itzchak Rehberg > http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ > http://www.izzysoft.de/ > "We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..." > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Subject: Re: to alarm or not to alarm (was: Re: [Evolution] Completely > unload Evolution from memory.) > From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:36:59 +0200 > > > > > > > I just wondered (nope, not using alarm normally): > > > > > > > > > > As these processes have to be running for notifying the user, shouldn't > > > > > they be launched on login? > > > > > > > > > > As they are not running on login, the user will not be notified unless > > > > > he actually runs Evolution -- at least for a short time. > > > > > > > > if you start evolution on a GNOME session, when closing the session, the > > > > list of running programs is saved, so the alarm daemon should be started > > > > if it was running when the session was ended. > > > > > > Well, as I said, I am just wondering. I don't use alarms ATM. > > > > > > Neither did I ever save my session when logging out. I only manually > > > added gkrellm to the session to start on login. I don't like > > > automatically recreating all running apps and I even close my apps > > > before logging out... > > > > > I also close all my apps before logging out, but I don't kill the other > > processes, so this saves any daemon/component that is running for the > > next session. > > I don't kill any process either. I just never *saved* a session. > > That means, alarm notification will not work as expected before starting > Evolution -- unless the user has actually saved a session with > evolution-alarm-notify running. > > This is not mentioned anywhere IMHO -- but it should. Or the alarm > daemon has to be added by Evolution. > > ...guenther > > > -- > char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; > main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: > (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. > From: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:39:12 +0200 > > > Oh, you'll want to go to apps->gnome_settings_daemon and uncheck > > start_screensaver so it doesn't override your KDE settings. > > You may say "odd" again: but there's no gnome-settings-daemon in apps... > As long as we're still talking about the gconf-edit. > > Izzy. > > -- > Itzchak Rehberg > http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ > http://www.izzysoft.de/ > "We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..." > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] "we were unable to open this addressbook" with 1.4 > From: Chris Toshok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mr. Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:40:42 -0700 > > Hm, did you shutdown evolution and kill wombat after doing the change? > > The addressbook unfortunately *does* store the path in 1 place, but it > shouldn't be affecting you if you're just clicking on the folder. The > completion list stores the full path iirc, so you'll have to remove the > folders there and re-add them. > > Chris > > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:07, Mr. Mailing List wrote: > > I've had 1.4 for some time now, and recently changed > > my main user's name to david. > > > > i changed all the perms and stuff to be under david, > > but i can no longer access my evolution contacts, even > > though i can clearly see them in > > /home/david/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook.db > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 david david 40K Jul 22 > > 23:00 addressbook.db > > > > i can edit it with text editor and it looks like it's > > ok, but i get this error now > > "we were unable to open this addressbook" > > and so on > > > > please help me? > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. > From: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:46:11 +0200 > > > > There are no more subfolders here. Just nautilus (empty), below that > > > preferences (just holding the desktop fonts). > > Do you have nautilus installed? Maybe it's a version thing, or a > > leftover from an older version. > > I would never install nautilus as long as I'm not forced to - all my > Linux-life that nautilus only messed up my KDE desktop (that's why my > first look on a messed-up desktop after some Gnome-app-start is "ps > aux|grep nautilus" :-) > > > > Yepp, but all Appz started after that have no fonts anymore... > > Real odd. That seems to point to a font server or locale issue. Did > > you try choosing different fonts? Changing fonts in gnome-font-settings > > has an immediate impact on running gnome apps, so make a font change, > > apply it, and see what happens..... go through the font list and see if > > any work. > > Yes, they all work great - as long as the app was started *prior* to the > gnome-settings-daemon: > > 1) start Evo. All okay, but fonts too big. > 2) start gnome-font-settings and apply font changes. Looks fine in Evo. > 3) exit gnome-font-settings. KDE desktop is already gone. > 4) start gnome-font-settings again (or some other X-App). > All text is converted into one dot per line, nothing readable. > 5) exit all appz, log out, log in. > 6) goto 1) > > I could also write that as "Loop forever"... The first time called it > works, second call (or: as soon as gnome-settings-daemon was running > once), it's gone... > > Izzy. > > -- > Itzchak Rehberg > http://www.qumran.org/homes/izzy/ > http://www.izzysoft.de/ > "We have joy, we have fun, we boot Linux on our SUN..." > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution Default Browser > From: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:49:21 +0200 > > > > > > > Hey, don't say this unless you have set the DPI values. ;) > > > > Yeah, if someone could tell me how to find out about this, I certainly > > > > check it! > > > I told you, what the culprit likely is. > > > > Yes, you did that. > > > > > I told you, how to set thze DPI value in Gnome. > > > > THAT mail did not arrive here - or I missed it. Just checked all mails > > from you again, could not find this. > > Well, I saw it in the list -- and it was also sent to you personal. ;) > > > --- snipp -- > > For Gnome, you can adjust the DPI value with the same app you set the > default fonts. Click the "Details" button to change the Resolution. > > $ gnome-font-properties > > > Dunno where to set this in KDE -- I do not use KDE... ;) > > --- snipp -- > > > > > I told you, you have to check out the DPI value for KDE > > > on your own, cause I do *not* use KDE. > > > > That was missing, too - but expected :-) I'm pretty sure KDE uses 75 dpi > > (I *ever* used that for years now), and AFAIR X11 is set up such, so it > > has to be. I just could not figure out how to tell Gnome2, even not with > > gconf-edit... > > > > > Running 'gnome-session-daemon' from the KDE autostart and setting *both* > > > DPI settings to the same value. That perfectly solved the different font > > > sizes for him. > > > > Here the gnome-settings-daemon messes all fonts up completely. But that, > > again, may be caused by being confused with different DPI settings. > > Likely -- but I may be wrong. > > > > > But I already posted this information, too. > > > > Must have been the same mail as with the location of the DPI settings... > > Sorry, but I must have missed it, s.a. > > Yep, it was. Hope, this will solve it for you. Maybe you wanna just > start playing with the Gnome DPI settings until they match. > > For a perfect match, make sure Gnome and KDE are even using the same > fonts. > > ...guenther > > > -- > char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; > main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: > (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4.3: fonts for menus, folders etc. > From: Lonnie Borntreger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Itzchak Rehberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Evolution List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:01:36 -0500 > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 15:46, Itzchak Rehberg wrote: > > Yes, they all work great - as long as the app was started *prior* to the > > gnome-settings-daemon: > > > > 1) start Evo. All okay, but fonts too big. > > 2) start gnome-font-settings and apply font changes. Looks fine in Evo. > > 3) exit gnome-font-settings. KDE desktop is already gone. > > 4) start gnome-font-settings again (or some other X-App). > > All text is converted into one dot per line, nothing readable. > > 5) exit all appz, log out, log in. > > 6) goto 1) > > > > I could also write that as "Loop forever"... The first time called it > > works, second call (or: as soon as gnome-settings-daemon was running > > once), it's gone... > > OK. I'm at a loss. After clearing the option to have the desktop > drawn, I've had no problems. You must have some package not installed > correctly. Maybe you need to install nautilus (clear the draw desktop > option and you should be OK). Can't hurt at this point, you can always > un-install it later. > > Don't know. I suffered through this (the background issue), until I > found gconf-editor, and have had no problems since. > > I wish you luck. > > Lonnie > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Starting evolution-1.4 problem > From: Mark Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Ximian, Inc. > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:29:11 -0400 > > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:00, guenther wrote: > > > Just upgrade evolution-1.2 to evolution-1.4. Each time on starting > > > evolution-1.4 following warning pop-up > > > > > > "This copy of Ximian Connector has not been activated" > > > > > > Kindly advise how to fix it. > > > > If you do not need Connector, just uninstall it again. Easiest done > > using Red-Carpet. > > > > I do not know OTH how they are called, but IIRC the following command > > should show you those packages (should be packaged by Ximian): > > > > $ rpm -qa | grep connector > > > > ...guenther > > rpm -e ximian-connector > > Given that there's only one vendor, there isn't a great variety in names > for that package. > > -Mark Gordon > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > End of evolution Digest _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
