On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:55, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> uh, that's exactly how it was explained that it would do.
Ok; sorry maybe I understood you wrongly.

But still, you can't use this trick to force the use of STARTTLS first,
since talking SMTP-S over a STARTTLS channel will hung the SMTP session
forever, thus locking your outbox folder until you manually delete the
mail to be sent.

I've just tried, and if I force the port number, my SMTP session hung
forever.

Regards,
Vincent.

> Jeff
> 
> On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 12:18, Vincent Jaussaud wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 17:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Evolution lets you do this too... you could specify "servername:25" for
> > > > the hostname, although I'm not sure exactly how it will behave in this
> > > > case. It might try to first do SMTPS on port 25, fail, and then try
> > > > SMTP+STARTTLS.
> > > 
> > > yea, I'm pretty sure that is how it would attempt to connect.
> > > 
> > Nope; if you put the port number in; it'll try to negociate SMTP-S with
> > the remote MTA, over port 25, even if this one talks only STARTTLS.
> > 
> > The result is that it will hung the SMTP session; since SMTP-S
> > initialise the SSL handshake directly after opening the socket; while
> > STARTTLS wait after the greetings dialog has been made (in plain text).
> > So basically, you'll try to talk SSL to a peer which expect plain text
> > input at first.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Vincent.
> > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- Dan
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