On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 20:12, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> thanks. I think I like the Outlook approach the best. Will see what I
> can do.
>
Thanks !
> > Kmail 1.5.1
> > - STARTTLS if selected SSL
> > - SMTPS if selected TLS
> >
Typo error; it's:
- STARTTLS if selected TLS
- SMTPS if selected SSL
Regards,
Vincent.
>
> > I found out these using a sendmail daemon listening on port 25, doing
> > TLS and an stunnel process doing SMTPS, listening on port 465.
> >
> > Hope this will help you to hack something up :)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Regards,
> >
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:07, Vincent Jaussaud wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:55, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > uh, that's exactly how it was explained that it would do.
> > > > Ok; sorry maybe I understood you wrongly.
> > > >
> > > > But still, you can't use this trick to force the use of STARTTLS first,
> > > > since talking SMTP-S over a STARTTLS channel will hung the SMTP session
> > > > forever, thus locking your outbox folder until you manually delete the
> > > > mail to be sent.
> > > >
> > > > I've just tried, and if I force the port number, my SMTP session hung
> > > > forever.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Vincent.
> > > >
> > > > > Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 12:18, Vincent Jaussaud wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 17:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Evolution lets you do this too... you could specify "servername:25" for
> > > > > > > > the hostname, although I'm not sure exactly how it will behave in this
> > > > > > > > case. It might try to first do SMTPS on port 25, fail, and then try
> > > > > > > > SMTP+STARTTLS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yea, I'm pretty sure that is how it would attempt to connect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope; if you put the port number in; it'll try to negociate SMTP-S with
> > > > > > the remote MTA, over port 25, even if this one talks only STARTTLS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The result is that it will hung the SMTP session; since SMTP-S
> > > > > > initialise the SSL handshake directly after opening the socket; while
> > > > > > STARTTLS wait after the greetings dialog has been made (in plain text).
> > > > > > So basically, you'll try to talk SSL to a peer which expect plain text
> > > > > > input at first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Vincent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Dan
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