Actually I think that its this silly MUA we're using.

Your first reply to me cc'ed the list but didn't set Reply-To so my
response only went to you.

My latest went to you and the list, and set the reply-to to the list, as
does this one.

Evo doesn't seem to be making it easy to keep the conversation on the
list.

On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 11:32 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> uh, i guess you did bcc me and the list, thats not very handy either,
> now my reply only went to you.
> 
> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 18:00 -0500, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 03:12 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> > > You can do this already, simply set-up a filter where you filter on the
> > > x-spam* header, as appropriate.
> > > 
> > > The junk/not junk will run through the sa-learn stuff, it doesn't
> > > actually move the mail anywhere, the junk folder is only a vfolder.
> > > 
> > > If you already have the subject altered, you can similarly just mark the
> > > mail as junk in a filter.
> > 
> > I'm sorry ~Zed, I must be a little thick.  I did go read the
> > evolution-hackers list archives back to last September or so and saw all
> > the discussion of how spam filtering might work, but never actually
> > understood how it actually came out.
> > 
> > I'm using the latest 1.5 snapshot (well at least as of late this
> > morning).
> > 
> > I'm still trying to figure out what the various junk/not-junk/filter
> > junk options and actions are supposed to do. Of course I realize that
> > due to the nature of 1.5 they might actually be doing something else.
> > <G>
> > 
> > Here's what I've found so far.
> > 
> > 1) I selected a message from this list, and pushed the Junk button.  The
> > message disappeared.  I expected to find it in the junk folder, but it
> > seems to have disappeared entirely. Note I did this experiment before I
> > updated evo1.5 today, so this was from a version a few days old.
> > 
> > If mail just disappears when you mark it as junk, what recourse do you
> > have if you make a mistake.
> > 
> > 2) I then tried making a filter which says:
> > 
> >    If Subject starts with [SPAM] then Set Status Junk
> > 
> > I noticed that there was also a junk test in the if clause but I'm not
> > sure what that does.
> > 
> > I then opened up my Spam v-folder (which selects all messages whose
> > subject contains [SPAM] in the inbox) selected all but the first message
> > and picked apply filters, and nothing seemed to happen, but after a few
> > seconds the selected messages just disappeared, but the unread message
> > count in the Spam vfolder was still showing 3 unread
> > 
> > I've gone away for a couple of hours now and came back to see the same 3
> > messages in the SPAM folder but not visible.
> > 
> > But... playing around a bit more I decided to see if the messages were
> > still in the inbox. That's when I opened the twistie on my e-mail
> > account (which uses IMAP by the way) and discovered a second junk folder
> > there.  AHA! That's where the messages went.
> > 
> > So now it appears that there are TWO junk folders, I guess that this one
> > is kind of a vfolder, although you guys seem to be hiding junk messages
> > when I view the INBOX, so I don't know where the messages reside
> > physically.
> > 
> > The other one appears to be a local folder, but it's not deletable (at
> > least EVO won't let me delete it. Why is this one there?  It confused me
> > to no end.
> > 
> > Long sigh....
> > 
> > So now do I have it right?
> > 
> > 1) Hitting the Junk button flags the mail as junk which makes it show up
> > in the Junk folder and hides it in others, at the same time it invokes
> > sa-learn to learn it as spam.
> > 
> > 2) Hitting the not junk button (which is only enabled when mail in the
> > junk folder is selected) removes the flag which "takes it out" of the
> > junk folder and makes it show up in other folders as appropriate, and
> > runs it through sa-learn to learn it as ham.
> > 
> > I'm still not sure what filter junk does.
> > 

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