thanks ... 

we have decided to put them on a separate "locked down" server ...

that will give us more flexibility .... then we will test/investigate
the GAL restrictions ...

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Fyodorov, Andrey FTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


Yeah, some older Exchange hosting whitepapers actually tell you to do
something with Default GAL permissions that will screw things up. Be
careful.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fyodorov, Andrey FTL
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


You need to look at Exchange Hosting whitepapers. Even though hosting
does not apply directly to your situations, some of the tricks are the
same. But basically you can create a GAL just for a certain group of
people and let them view it, at the same time deny them permissions to
view the Default GAL. You need to be careful though.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


This looks interesting to look into ...

Any specific KB articles you have in mind?

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Fyodorov, Andrey FTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


How about restricting the Default GAL so that the students can't see it.
Then create a separate GAL for them which will only display who they
should be able to send mail to?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


yes .. oh I wish I could suspend the accounts of the complainers ... 

the kids are just being kids (they don't complain, just experiment) ....

well if no-one see's any major technical glitches that I have tried and
explained, I will proceed (actually, I already have started to build the
server)   --- that is if anyone is actually following this thread ---

thanks for the input ED,

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


Tell them that if you get one more complaint their accounts will be
suspended.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition

yes, you are probably right ...

unfortunately they are in our forest already and in our exchange
organization already and sending "graffiti" mail around already ...
(sorry about all the already's ...)

all this would attempt to solve is the "graffiti" mail issue ...

thanks for the input ,

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


Sorry but it sounds like your just setting yourself to have them figure
a way to hack around it. This security concern should probably be a
higher priority then restricting their mail access. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition

hmmm ... I don't want to get into a debate over restrictions on kids ...
the hippie side of me (which is just about all there is ) doesn't like
restrictions, however the reality side of me sees applications ... if
you would like to have a beer and discuss this at one of my bonfires out
in our woods, everyone is welcome (bring your own marshmallows, I will
supply the beer and hot dogs ) ...

anyway ... in my test lab I did the following, which seems to work
without any noticeable errors ... i.e. it allows students to be a member
of our forest, while restricting their delivery to themselves and their
teachers ...

I created another server in our organization and put all the student
mailboxes on it ... I then edited the SMTP virtual server on this
restricted server to not allow connections from anyone, and set a bogus
smart host up for outbound delivery (I also lowered all the timeouts to
1 minute) ... I also restricted the POP3 server from external
connections ... I  created a second mailbox for the teachers that also
is on this restricted server and gave the teacher's primary user object
full access to the mailbox on the restricted server and mounted it in
the teachers Outlook client ...

It seems to work fine, no errors that I can see in the event viewer ...
the students at this test high school can send mail amongst themselves
on the restricted server but cannot send mail out or receive mail .. 

Comments? Criticisms? Gotchas?

Thanks,

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


You do that by setting delivery restrictions on everyone else in the
organization to restrict delivery from those folks.  I know that's not
what you want to hear.  May I recommend you just tell them that they
can't send mail to anyone outside their class and enforce the problem
administratively? There are seldom good technological solutions to
behavioral problems.

By the way, maybe if you leave the restrictions off you'll find a little
less graffiti in the restrooms.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition

That only restricts who they receive mail from .. I want to restrict who
they send mail to ...

I think that my only option may be to add another Exchange server to my
organization, put all the students mailboxes who are learning Outlook on
it, and not allow mail to leave or come into that server(i.e. mail can
only be sent among users on that server) ... I will try this out in my
test lab ....

What you all think? Any other ideas?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition


Yes use Delivery Restriction Page under The Exchange general page when 
viewing User object.


From: "Wohlgemuth, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: restrict delivery - addition
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:00:33 -0500

platform ...

Exchange 2000

sorry ...

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: restrict delivery


Is there a way to restrict delivery on a mailbox to only certain people?

we have students who we only want to allow to email their teachers ...

thanks,

mike

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