You still need the desktop piece to allow users to handle syncs,
software upgrades and changing their rule sets.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offl ine mode
> 
> 
> Why dont you just get the server product and dump the gludgy desktop
> redir... it nice and all for like 1 or 2 people but beyond 
> that its a bit of
> a bite
> 
> better yet...get Good Technologies solution and you get Sync'd E-mail,
> Contacts, Calendar, etc...just like have you total OL with 
> you..it's nice!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in
> offl ine mode
> 
> 
> Thanks for the tip. I think we could create a "blackberry" 
> group of users on
> our domain (nt4) and then test to see if they are in that 
> group in the login
> script to determine whether to launch the desktop manager or not.  
> 
> Tom 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offl
> ine mode
> 
> We take the Desktop Manager out of the Startup folder and 
> instead launch it
> from our logon script, so it doesn't start when people are out of the
> office. 
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf 
> Of Alverson,
> Tom
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March, 2004 11:51
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offline
> mode
> 
> 
>  We have a few users with laptops and blackberries who like 
> to dial in.  We
> have a special dial in modem bank that can access the RPC ports of our
> Exchange 5.5 server.  If they have the Blackberry desktop 
> manager loading at
> startup, it tries to connect to the exchange server and 
> decides that it is
> offline.  When they dial in to this connection and then 
> launch Outlook, the
> mapi spooler is already loaded (by the blackberry desktop 
> manager) and has
> already decided that the computer is offline.  
> 
> Right now we have to tell them to quit the Blackberry desktop 
> manager, then
> dial in, then launch Outlook.  If they need to cradle the 
> Blackberry, then
> they must manually launch the desktop manager.  Since they 
> use the laptops
> direct connected to our LAN 95% of the time, it is good to 
> have the desktop
> manager in the startup group.
> 
> Is there a better way to handle this?
> 
> Tom
> 
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